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IMR 4227 vs Hogden 4227
Oct 15th, 2007 at 2:07pm
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I'm trying to develop a load for my .32-40, and I read the load information in the thread.  When specified, they say H4227.  I can only find IMR 4227 for sale locally.  The Hogden web site talks about them as different things (without ever actually saying so.)  a phone call to Hogden got me - "yah, you can use the IMR," but left me still confused.

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Re: IMR 4227 vs Hogden 4227
Reply #1 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 2:34pm
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Which ever one you use is ok! Just don`t interchange load form one to the other! each is it`s own!
I would personally us H-4227! But one works just as good as the other
  

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Re: IMR 4227 vs Hogden 4227
Reply #2 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 2:52pm
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I see Chris Hodgdon from time to time, and he has told me that Hodgdon has bought IMR, so they're both Hodgdon. Now, one of powders is made in Australia and one is made in Canada, I believe the difference is that the Canadian powder has graphite in it. I have used both and they seem to work equally well, however as Jim Borton said they don't weigh out alike, so be sure to reset your powder measure.

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Re: IMR 4227 vs Hogden 4227
Reply #3 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 3:16pm
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Thank you!

I'll try to spell Hodgdon correctly in the future.

Use either, but don't mix them.

I can start with the same charge by weight, (but not volume) correct?

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Reply #4 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 7:20pm
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the best way not to cornfuse the two 4227's is to use unique.. Grin Grin

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Reply #5 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 10:41pm
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Thanks Grampa, that seems like a unique solution Wink

How much would you use?

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Re: IMR 4227 vs Hogden 4227
Reply #6 - Oct 15th, 2007 at 11:17pm
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So far, my best load for the .32-40 has been with IMR4227.
  

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Re: IMR 4227 vs Hogden 4227
Reply #7 - Oct 16th, 2007 at 3:56pm
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Down to one can of IMR 4227 I stopped by the gun shop last week and bought another pound.  It's put up in a Hodgdon plastic canister.  I guess it's  the new stuff.  When I get down to a few charges of the old can 4227 will note impact on my targets drop down a few clicks on the measure and switch to the new powder.  First lower charge then up to my normal load same charge will tell the story if it's hotter or not. 

I expect there could be some difference but if you follow the rule to drop the charge when switching components you won't go wrong

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Re: IMR 4227 vs Hogden 4227
Reply #8 - Oct 22nd, 2007 at 8:01pm
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The latest brochure I have from Power Valley Inc. does not list a H-4227 maybe Hodgdon has dropped it in favor of the more popular IMR 4227.    leadball
  
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Re: IMR 4227 vs Hogden 4227
Reply #9 - Oct 22nd, 2007 at 8:22pm
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"maybe Hodgdon has dropped it in favor of the more popular IMR 4227. "

It's my understanding from Chris Hodgdon that the H4227 would be dropped, since the IMR version greatly outpaced it in sales.

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Re: IMR 4227 vs Hogden 4227
Reply #10 - Nov 15th, 2007 at 8:05am
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When I heard that Hodgdon was dropping H4227, that concerned me greatly.  I immediately went and bought out the local supply of H4227.

Then I called Hodgdon and was told that the ADI powder made in Australia would be moved over to the IMR line.  So ACCORDING TO HODGDON what they are really dropping is the old IMR-4227, and replacing it with what used to be H4227 but will now be labelled "IMR-4227".

However, the last time I looked, new cans of IMR-4227 were NOT made in Australia.  ???  Smiley

To add to the confusion, I called later and asked about loading data for the new powder and was told NOT to use H4227 data with the new IMR-4227 powder (that used to be labelled H4227.)  I was told that all previous IMR-4227 loading data could be used with the new powder.

I said "NOW WAIDAMINUTE, you said that this is the exact same powder as H4227, but I can't use H4227 loading data????"

"That's right, use IMR-4227 loading data with the new IMR-4227 powder"

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