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kodiak1
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Stevens model 44
Jun 17th, 2009 at 12:18am
 
Would anyone here be able to help a fella date a stevens 44 by the serial number?
Is this rifle classified as an antique in the USA?
Caliber is 25-20 Single Shot.
Serial Number 43XXX.

Any Information would be greatly appreciated.

Ken.  Wink
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Re: Stevens model 44
Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2009 at 1:16am
 
These are difficult to date precisely. In order to be an antique it would have to have been manufactured before 1898. One of my references says the 44 was introduced in 1896. With the serial # it was PROBABLY made after 1898. It would definately be a C&R gun though, that is over 50 years old. Hope this has been of some help.
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Reply #2 - Jun 17th, 2009 at 1:23pm
 
So what I am picking up is some of these are antique and some of them are not antique due to the year they were actually built in.
Would have thought that the model or the caliber would have some bearing on it.
Is the 25-20SS an obsolete caliber in the USA or are there even calibers that are rated as obselete?

Our system up here is just as confussing on antiques.

Thanks Ken.
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Reply #3 - Jun 17th, 2009 at 8:14pm
 
Ken, where are you located? In the US the BATF goes by the actual date of manufacture of the individual forearm. You pretty much need to be able to doccument that it was made befroe 1898 to be an antique. Caliber could be a determining factor, if, say, Stevens quit making the 44 in a particular caliber before 1898, that would prove that the gun was made before 1898. Does that clarify things or have I muddied the water? The .25-20 SS and many other calibers are oblelete. Cartridges of the World is a good reference on this. .25-20 SS brass is available here but it is not cheap. I have one and shoot it occasionaly. Neat cartridge.
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Reply #4 - Jun 18th, 2009 at 7:22pm
 
The Stevens 44 had a very long run, and although it came out before 1898, it went on until well into the 1930's in the true 44, and even longer in variants.
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Re: Stevens model 44
Reply #5 - Jun 18th, 2009 at 8:39pm
 
Hi All !!!

Slumlord44 has it down so in addition, the mis-conception is that the numbering on the action (or parts) are the serial numbers when in fact they are not… They are assembly and/or die numbers that were used to “kit” specific models and measure the forge/cast dies/moulds for wear & damage.. Imagine the many hundreds of thousand parts produced in the late eighteen-hundreds that were manufactured and assembled by hand.. I once observed an original production order that verified this method of identification.. Even Remington would use this coding in producing the millions of Rolling Blocks produced for the World market.. I have now discussed this issue many times over and always look forward to other views that will surely be forthcoming….

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Reply #6 - Jun 18th, 2009 at 11:57pm
 
slumlord that is the idea I was getting from what I had read, but the head ache in trying to cypher it was enormus.
One last question when was the 25-20 SS last made by stevens?
Is that another week of reading?

Thanks for all the input fellas it is appreciated.
Do any of you know the phone number of an exporter in the USA?

Any names or numbers PM'd would be great also.

Ken. Cry
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Re: Stevens model 44
Reply #7 - Jun 19th, 2009 at 6:38pm
 
Stevens offered the .25-20SS from the earliest 44's until just after WWI I believe.
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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2009 at 9:20pm
 
Finally Found a fella that found out it is an antique.
Ken.
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