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Re-Forming Brass to the 32-40 WCF Case
Jul 30th, 2009 at 10:42am
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   I've attempted to locate factory formed 32-40 WCF brass cases, which as recently as Fall 2008, was a stocked item with many, if not most, reloading supply houses.

    Anyone know of a current source of 32-40 WCF brass?  As an alternative, which alternative factory formed brass cases will reform into the 32-40 configuration ?  I seem to have heard that the .32 Win Special is the best donor cartridge, although I know the 30-30 Win will also suffice, but wind up a bit short in length.

   I am also looking for a source for a single 32-40 Full Length Sizing die.  All the big name brand dies makers want to sell their two die sets.  Because I'm breech seating, I only full length size one time when the brass is new and don't need the seating dies from a two die set.
  
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Re: Re-Forming Brass to the 32-40 WCF Case
Reply #1 - Jul 30th, 2009 at 10:48am
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Midway lists both RCBS and Redding single sizing dies, though you can buy the Lee two die set for less than either single die!

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Re: Re-Forming Brass to the 32-40 WCF Case
Reply #2 - Jul 30th, 2009 at 12:35pm
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I would use Winchester 38-55's to reform to .32-40's. They start short but will grow when reduced. If they don't grow enough to suit, you can always use Starline full length .38-55's. They will need to be trimmed a little when you are done sizing. If you are breechseating a little bit of shortness won't hurt. Smiley
  

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Re: Re-Forming Brass to the 32-40 WCF Case
Reply #3 - Jul 30th, 2009 at 9:15pm
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I've used .32 Win Spl cases for years. They work great, and seem to be easy to find at most gun shows.
  

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Re: Re-Forming Brass to the 32-40 WCF Case
Reply #4 - Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:19am
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Just for grins & giggles, I hunted up a Winchester 38-55 case and ran it (properly lubed) into a Redding 32-40 die, in about 1/4 stroke increments, rotating the case about 1/4 turn each stroke.  Took very little effort, I probably could have done it in one pass, and I had a case that matched my 32-40 "official" brass within about .010".

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Re: Re-Forming Brass to the 32-40 WCF Case
Reply #5 - Jul 31st, 2009 at 1:52am
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Good question as with reloading supplies, powder and brass as well as primers being in short supply always have a plan "b". Could not find anyone who had 32-40 cases in stock. Called starling and enquired about their standard length 2.080 38-55 cases. Was told that these were still available. But that they had a limited supply. So I quickly put in my order for 250 38-55 cases @99.49. No one else that I checkes had either 32-40 or even 375 winchester in stock. Some firms still show supplys of 30-30 cases but no 32 special. My next step will to get a redding 3 die set and locate the rcbs form and trim die. And spend some time prepping some cases. I still have some origional C-I-L canadian 32-40 cases and about 60 RP and REM-UMC cases with which to start. Midway wants about !25.00 for the saeco 32 cal 200gr flatpoint mold from redding.I believe you can get the same mold from grafs for 99.00 some savings. These are special molds and have to be prepaid. Looking better for suplies?. Methinks that these companies are now actually carrying less items in stock as its less money tied up in the warehouse. Frank
  

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Reply #6 - Jul 31st, 2009 at 6:36am
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    Hey thanks guys for your input !  Especially Mr. 38-Cal for explaining just how simple the reforming process actually is.

    I better get busy today scouting out some donor cases in order to avert the possibility of one day looking at my supply of brass cases and realizing I'm short on 32-40.

    I wonder if Winchester will ever again make a run of new manuf. 32-40 WCF ? ?  ?
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 31st, 2009 at 3:27pm
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My guess is that they will make another run as soon as the demand gets great enough for one of the major distributors to put in another order and space becomes available on the proper manufacturing line.  My further guess would be that we are simply waiting for the latter to occur and the first is already here.

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Reply #8 - Jul 31st, 2009 at 11:59pm
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I was told by a friend that Win. is planning a run of .32-40 brass this fall. Not sure when we would see them after that?
  

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Reply #9 - Aug 1st, 2009 at 2:22pm
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FWIW, nobody told me it was supposed to be hard to size .38-55s down to .32-40, so I just took a RCBS FL die and started doing it with light case lube in just two passes.   Roll Eyes  I guess I was just like the bumblebee that's too dumb to know he can't fly, but it was the easiest case modification I've ever tried.  I'd still rather have the purpose built cases when they come out, though!

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Reply #10 - Aug 2nd, 2009 at 8:57am
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     Froggie--- I , too, would rather go with the factory brass with the correct head stamp for 32-40.

     My concern was that W-W had made their last run of the schuetzen caliber last year when I got in on that buy.  I was just anticipating a short fall on 32-40's as mine wear out, even though I have them "fire form" for the CPA chamber, and never run them through a die.  Who knows, they may last 10-15 years.

     Are you O.K. on 32-40 W-W brass ?  If not, please drop me a P.M.

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Re: Re-Forming Brass to the 32-40 WCF Case
Reply #11 - Aug 2nd, 2009 at 3:58pm
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Thanks for thinking of me Creedmoormatch, but since I just use a single case for most matches, it will take a loong time for me to use up the cases I currently own.  Like you, I will probably set aside a stash of an extra 100 or so if the opportunity arises this Fall, but I should have plenty for my current needs.

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Re: Re-Forming Brass to the 32-40 WCF Case
Reply #12 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 2:48pm
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No one mentioned using 30-30 brass to form their 32-40's. I shoot fixed ammo and had to use 30-30 brass for awhile until I found some new 32-40 brass to load. They came out a little short but still worked fine in my Stevens 44 1/2 and my Rolling block rifles giving me some good groups around 1 inch.
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 6th, 2009 at 7:17pm
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I attempted resizing a couple of 38-55 as well as a couple of 30-30 cases to 32-40 i[b]n a lee die. Relubed several times and made several small steps. Was not able to resize full length. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
  
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Re: Re-Forming Brass to the 32-40 WCF Case
Reply #14 - Dec 6th, 2009 at 7:42pm
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utahsmith wrote on Dec 6th, 2009 at 7:17pm:
I attempted resizing a couple of 38-55 as well as a couple of 30-30 cases to 32-40 i[b]n a lee die. Relubed several times and made several small steps. Was not able to resize full length. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Have you annealed the brass?  Making it softer before forming it makes if much more workable.
  

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