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Jazzman251
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32-40 Highwall Loads
Jan 16th, 2010 at 10:10pm
 
I just ordered a new Hi Wall in 32-40. Have been contemplating the use of 170 gr Laser Cast. Any suggestions/experience on loads? I'm thinking either RE7 or IMR 4198.
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Re: 32-40 Highwall Loads
Reply #1 - Jan 17th, 2010 at 12:05am
 
The two powders that just about I know of are 4227 and 4759 especially in the 32-40. Of course that does not mean you cannot use the powders that you have mentioned. Frank
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Reply #2 - Jan 17th, 2010 at 7:36am
 
While I have fired many pounds of lead bullets through original and rebarreled high-walls in .32-40, enough to qualify it as my favorite rifle and caliber, I have yet to fire any using either of the things you mention.  I have heard disappointing things about the Laser Cast bullets performing poorly in single shot rifles and have not seen or read enough to form a valid opinion on either of the powders in question.  

On the other hand, the powders mentioned by Singleshotlover have been tried and  true ones, not just for me, but for a large number of the SS fraternity.  I assume you are planning on shooting fixed ammunition (ie loaded in the normal manner like modern cartridges) so I would suggest that you get a can of 4227 and use about 14.5 gr of it behind a 170-195 gr bullet with light taper crimp (try not to crimp heavily with a roll crimp... it just overworks the brass) and ignite with the large rifle primer of your choice ( I generally use Winchester LR) and get some base line results this way.  That's a proven load for me.  You might even give it a go with the Laser Cast bullets, but I can't help but think softer alloy fit your rifle's bore would satisfy you better. I've heard rumors that somebody is making some for the Cowboy Action crowd... you might check with that bunch.

Good luck with your high-wall!
Froggie

PS  I should have mentioned also that I really like 4759 for breech seating, but have also burned a bunch of it in fixed rounds behind 170-185 grain bullets with great results too.  It is a little dirty, but that's why we have cleaning rods and patches!  GF
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Re: 32-40 Highwall Loads
Reply #3 - Jan 17th, 2010 at 7:56pm
 
with fixed ammo i used red dot with some success. it is dirty but i had some good groups with it. started breech seating and have not pursued fixed ammo since
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ah heck  AA#9,4227,300MP, as long as it goes bang
 
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Reply #4 - Jan 17th, 2010 at 8:15pm
 
I've used 17 or 18 gr of 4198 behind the 185-gr Ideal 319162.  Never tried any commercial cast bullets.  You would do well to slug your bore and specify at least that diameter when you order from Lazer-Cast.
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Reply #5 - Jan 18th, 2010 at 10:04am
 
jazzman; who is offering highwalls in  32/40? im am interested in getting one.  thanks  artr
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Reply #6 - Jan 18th, 2010 at 1:05pm
 
art_ruggiero wrote on Jan 18th, 2010 at 10:04am:
jazzman; who is offering highwalls in  32/40? im am interested in getting one.  thanks  artr


CDNN does in the Winchester Limited Series High Wall. If you download their Catalog in PDF format and then go to pages 42 & 43, you'll see they have them at $1,000 and $1,100. They are beautiful rifles.

CDNN web site: http://www.cdnninvestments.com/
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Reply #7 - Jan 18th, 2010 at 1:33pm
 
I tried Lazer cast bullets in a 38/55 once. They leaded the barrel bad. So I removed the hard waxy lube and used my lube. They didnt lead as bad but were not very accurate. I wouldnt even use them for hunting loads. The bullets look good I have to admit that.   Wink


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Re: 32-40 Highwall Loads
Reply #8 - Jan 18th, 2010 at 5:04pm
 
dave j    where do you start with RED DOT with 200 bullet?
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Reply #9 - Jan 18th, 2010 at 6:31pm
 
H-108 was my preferred powder but with it no longer being available Accurate Arms #9 is the best powder I have found to date for breach seated bullets in the 200 grain range in a 1-15 twist barrel. I have found best accuracy in my rifle to be at the second node around 1450-1474 fps range. Most shooters prefer the first node around the 1250-1300 fps range.
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Re: 32-40 Highwall Loads
Reply #10 - Jan 18th, 2010 at 7:22pm
 
jazzman; who is offering highwalls in  32/40? im am interested in getting one.  thanks  artr

We did get them from CDNN, bought 2 for $899 each and got an H&R Buffalo Classic in 45 Long Colt for free.
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Re: 32-40 Highwall Loads
Reply #11 - Jan 19th, 2010 at 8:17am
 
For powder start out with 4227, 4759 doesn’t drop well when you get down to about 14 – 14.5 grains. 4198 and Reloader 7 usually do better with larger cases also I know a couple of people who have used Reloader 7 in 38-55 and 40-70s they reported so-so results and went back to 4227 and 4759.
  As to the lazer cast bullets you would be better off buying the pure lead bullets from Buffalo Arms than those hard things. Nothing good happens when you add antimony to the mix in this game. The best thing that you can do is buy a decent mould and cast some bullets in 30:1 to 25:1 lead tin and working up a load.
 
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Reply #12 - Jan 21st, 2010 at 11:48am
 
Jazzman I had the same questions several months ago, the fine folks on this forum pointed me in the right direction. I also have the Winchester 1885 Limited 32-40 with 1-16" twist.
I bought the Lyman 319247 165Gr. FN bullet mold and cast my bullets @ 25/1. I use 14.0 gr of IMR 4227.
The big problem is brass...I reformed 38-55 to 32-40. The following proceedure worked for me.. Full length resize 38-55 brass in 38-55 FL die. Annel Brass neck. Reform to 32-40 using several (3) progessively greater passes until fully formed to 32-40. I then fire formed the brass in the Winchester chamber. Check case length...I trimmed my cases to uniform length. 
I can keep my shoots inside the 10 ring @ 200 yards from the bench, the 10 ring is 2" diameter.
I used Verl Smith's Soft Blue lube and have no leading problems, but I personally think any lube will work fine w/ this load.
My next adventure is to try a heavier bullet....
Good shooting...Very pleasant rifle to shoot!!
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