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Modified Ballards-value?
02/08/10 at 21:07:09
 
 My father has a collection of Ballards that have heavy barrels-32-40 Schuetzen, 25-20WCF or 22 long rifle, Action ser #5506,6309,6996,13064,24005, 35538. How do I find the value of these guns?
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Reply #1 - 02/08/10 at 21:42:15
 
Pictures, Barrel makers, Model numbers these are some of the things that are needed to help value Ballard rifles.  You can look in John Dutcher's book for some help on this.  I only have one problem with John's book.  That being two of the three places my name is in it he misspelled it.

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Reply #2 - 02/08/10 at 23:00:53
 
Ser 5506 has a V.Sigmon Cabool Mo. barrel, 25-20WCF,ser 35538 has a Niedner Rifle Corp Dowagiac, Mich 22 long rifle, The others- I can't find any letters or numbers on them. Tried to post pics, wouldn't go.
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Reply #3 - 02/09/10 at 09:34:19
 
Westy  Have you tried to post photos on photobucket.com? This may allow you to refer to them from this forum.  Would like to see them especially if you intend to sell any.  Bob Smiley
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Reply #4 - 02/09/10 at 21:53:40
 
Westy.--Not an expert, by any means, but from what you listed I think you may be talking some serious money.  If you are considering selling, I would get a knowledgeable appraiser to look at them (maybe more than one). Would cost you some money, but think it might be worth it.
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Reply #5 - 02/09/10 at 23:11:30
 
Verl Sigman is a (semi) retired gunsmith and Schuetzen shooter.  I believe that he's still in the Cabool, MO area.

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Reply #6 - 02/10/10 at 02:18:54
 
The 25-20 maker i do not know.  The Niedner could be a high dollar rifle.  We need more information on it Pistol grip or straight grip stock, any idea as to the stock maker?  engraved?  
Marlin was good on putting serial numbers or ballard parts barrels actions both pieces of wood and butt plates will have serial numbers.
any more information would help get you some answers.

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Reply #7 - 02/10/10 at 05:52:58
 
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Reply #8 - 02/10/10 at 07:18:53
 
westy,
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Reply #9 - 02/10/10 at 18:46:29
 
RE: .25-20 SS gunsmithed by Verl Sigman. He has gunsmithed the
winningest .25's. He really knows how to chamber and throat for
that load. He is still in Cabool, MO.

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Reply #10 - 03/15/10 at 22:14:59
 
I have not been able to determine the value of the guns due to the numerous modifications. I have a couple of articles and pictures of CT Westergaard with a couple of his guns and we are trying to get better identification as we may have 1 or 2 of the guns. I have also discovered a medals board with about 20 medals he won from 1910 to 1029 including several King medals. I also have an autobiography.
 We have not decided if or when we might sell some of the guns. This has been quite a learning process and I appreciate everyone's input.
Thank you,
Lee Westergaard
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Reply #11 - 03/16/10 at 07:12:24
 
Lee     PM sent  Bob
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Reply #12 - 03/16/10 at 12:40:31
 
Lee,

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Reply #13 - 03/16/10 at 20:13:51
 
Part of the value of a modified Ballard is how it was done, who did the mods, and finally what Ballard model it originally was. This last point is even more important if it remains mostly original, with basically just a barrel change.
If the mods were done to a low end Ballard model then the end result will be a low end modified Ballard, which is significantly less value. If the base gun was a higher end (more desireable) model, then the modified gun will usually have more value.
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Reply #14 - 03/17/10 at 20:53:08
 
I traded for a Ballard poorly modified by a name smallbore barrel maker to a small bore prone rifle once.  Had it for sale at 600 bucks for a year or so before trading it off to a buddy for about 600 bucks worth of stuff.

It was and is a great shooter, If  the rifle does not look good nobody wants to buy it.  Ballards for the action alone don't bring the same prices as a Low Wall Winchester.

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