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Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Oct 14th, 2011 at 9:18pm
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I've been following the release of this new sight which seems to offer the ability to focus on the target and front sight simultaneously.   Has anyone used one or seen one used?  

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GEhMANN
Fa. Gehmann (Karlsruhe, Germany) introduced
a new “superfilter” for the rifle rear
sight which - according to President Markus
Gehmann - enables the shooter to see both the
front sight as well as the target sharp, simultaneously.
The name of the device is Gehmann
Superfilter AOS MicroSight. It was launched
in the market only 5 days before the beginning
of the IWA. According to Markus Gehmann, it
is definitely in compliance with ISSF rules as
there is no magnification whatsoever. The device
is very small and it can be easily installed
by the shooter to a diopter housing which has
M9,5 x 1 threads (most leading sights do). The
MSRP in Central Europe is planned to be a little
over 100 euros. More information available
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Re: Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Reply #1 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 12:28am
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This is something pioneered by Stallings Machine in the US, AFAIK. I know a couple guys using them on service rifles and they say they are indeed magic, once you learn how to relax and not try to focus on one or the other as we're conditioned to do.

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Re: Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Reply #2 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 7:45am
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I'm not so shure that they meet ASSRA rules. are there lenses in both ends? I understand that there is no magnification, but that is not the issue. please read the attach applicable rule on sights.

Section 1.20   Sights
       Sights are defined as “iron” or alternately “any sights”.

Section 1.21   Iron Sights
Iron sights are sights without any optical elements. An exception to this is that a lens may be used in  either the front or rear sight , but not both.

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Re: Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Reply #3 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 7:59am
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Did you receive your adapter yet??
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 8:58am
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The one concern I would have is the comment in the Gehmann discription about the alignment needing to be centered to work correctly. With a major wind day will this put you out of the needed alignment range?
  
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Re: Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Reply #5 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 9:23am
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Very technologically interesting but VERY '$hpen$hive.  It'd take a careful cost/benefits analysis with a magic pencil for me to justify one
  

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Re: Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Reply #6 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 9:54am
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Bnice...I agree that alignment could be a problem.  Maybe there needs to be a way to rotate the rear aperature holder to keep in aligned with the front sight and target...more fiddley stuff.  I don't know if a diopter rear sight would be necessary with the Microsight but using both would be two lenses not one. 

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Re: Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Reply #7 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 11:09am
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I'm cheap and dont understand technical stuff, so I will continue to aim at the center of the fuzzy spot for as long as I'm able.   

That sorta came out weird.  Sorry.  Embarrassed 

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Re: Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Reply #8 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 12:53pm
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Kind of normal Joe Grin
  

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Re: Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Reply #9 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 7:30pm
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Glad to here you are still able Joe  GrinSmiley
I like to try one before I would buy one. But before I could do that it sounds like I need my vision corrected to work, which is my problem already.  Smiley
  
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Re: Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Reply #10 - Oct 16th, 2011 at 9:44pm
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Could be something to it, I would want to know something about the science before buying. Will have a look at the small bore target boards see if any of them are using one.

Web site says vision should be corrected for distance which makes the front sight fuzzy. This device then sharpens up the front sight.  Rear diopters do the exact same thing except, they do it by making the  hole smaller which cuts out light, wonder if it's just some way to get more light into the rear sight ? They say on the site less light makes it less effective or something to that effect. 

You also have to consider the problem. Shooting bulls eye targets daytime on the average rifle range with Aperture sights fuzzy bull makes no difference at all if the front sight is sharp, it centers fuzzy just as well as a sharp bull. 

Silhouette with a irregular shaped target that's large, too large for the aperture to circle, and requires you to pick a spot on the target not just centered up I need distance vision and a sharp front sight.  Fine with a small rear aperture on a bright day, gets cloudy not enough light to stop the rear down small I don't shoot nearly as well. If this thing worked and was match legal it would be well worth getting.

Only thing is when I shot small bore prone used all German stuff, rifles sights apertures etc. Nothing was any better than the old fashioned American Tang Sights and arpeture  front sights on on my single shots. Not much new when it comes to sighting equipment. Sometimes this gear gets hyped way more than it deserves.

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Re: Gehmann Microsight 560 (magic??)
Reply #11 - Oct 18th, 2011 at 1:01am
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I'm with JOE, love that soft fuzzy spot..........MIKE...
  
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