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Winchester/Lyman 8x Scope Question
Jun 27th, 2012 at 5:36pm
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Is this scope strong enough to use on a 38/55 rifle ? I got it with a smallbore rifle, but am thinking of mouting it on my Peabody. TIA !
  

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Re: Winchester/Lyman 8x Scope Question
Reply #1 - Jun 27th, 2012 at 6:43pm
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I also have one. They are quality made scopes but, only made with the 22rf in mind.

I may mount mine on a 25 cf but, that is about as far as I would go. Since they can't move, the shock of recoil goes directly to the scope.

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Re: Winchester/Lyman 8x Scope Question
Reply #2 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 12:05am
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I would tend to agree. They were made specificaly for the Winchester 75 .22 Target rifle. Have one on mine but I think I would limit it to a .22 rimfire.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 2:33am
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mm1ut1, I don't think Lyman had anything to do with the manufacture of this scope.      ...MIKE...
  
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Re: Winchester/Lyman 8x Scope Question
Reply #4 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 9:08am
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I only use my 8X on a .22 caliber due to recoil and because the mounts are solid. Not sure what would happen on a larger caliber as I have never tried it. Could easily shell the crosshairs.
Lyman did buy out the Winchester scope business later and renamed the scopes.
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Re: Winchester/Lyman 8x Scope Question
Reply #5 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 1:31pm
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MAD MIKE wrote on Jun 28th, 2012 at 2:33am:
mm1ut1, I don't think Lyman had anything to do with the manufacture of this scope.      ...MIKE...

From what I've read since getting mine, I do beleave that Lyman made these scopes for Winchester. Winchester did not put there mark on them anywhere, they are only marked 8X and the objective marking for distance.

If you compare them to the Winchester A5 that Lyman bought from them and the lyman 5A, you can see the 8X heritage. I do wish that they would have kept the 5A spline and front mount though.

The dovetails are also a pita.

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Re: Winchester/Lyman 8x Scope Question
Reply #6 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 7:14pm
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Frank, This scope & the ones made for the 67s,69s & the 61s were about 25 years after they sold the A & B series scopes to Lyman. According to John Campbell the 8 power & the 3 & 5 power, were made by the Carolynne Co.   ...MIKE...
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 7:43pm
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The April 2010 issue of "Man at Arms" has an article about these scopes and the rifles for them.Written by Vincent L. Rausch. He thinks there were two suppliers of them. Carolyn Scopes made some and Saymon-Brown made some.
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 10:32pm
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Thank you both for that info.

I couldn't find anything regarding the Carolynne Co. in Stroebles book and I Googled it and came up with nothing. Where can I find more info?

That said, would you agree that they are made on the A5 design?

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Re: Winchester/Lyman 8x Scope Question
Reply #9 - Jun 29th, 2012 at 5:35am
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They are not A5 design.If you PM me your mail address I can copy the article and mail it to you.
  
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Re: Winchester/Lyman 8x Scope Question
Reply #10 - Jun 29th, 2012 at 4:44pm
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podufa, I didn't think anyone read that article but me.                Frank, The only similarity between the A5 & the later Win. scopes is tubing & lens's (Win.Single Shot Vol.2 Pg.230). Also I believe the dovetails are for a grooved receiver. I have both the 8X & a 5X, & IMHO niether one is worth putting on a rifle.   ...MIKE...
  
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Re: Winchester/Lyman 8x Scope Question
Reply #11 - Jun 29th, 2012 at 6:21pm
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A friend has six of these factory mounted on various 22's.They are good clear scopes not suited for anything but 22.They use bases and not a grooved receiver.
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 29th, 2012 at 7:00pm
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There is an article on the winchester A5 scopes and the lyman version in the 2007 Gun Digest - 61st addition.
  
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