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Dr.Maynard
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The Schuetzen Uniform
Jul 2nd, 2013 at 6:55am
 

  Does anyone of the schuetzen competitors know what constitutes the "schuetzen uniform" ?  The reference pertains to wearing apparel in use during the hey day of American schuetzen vereins.

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Reply #1 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:41am
 
There are existing photos that show rather elaborate "parade" uniforms.  They appear to be similar to Civil War military, post civil war militia, and fraternal organization uniforms with the addition of braid, plumes and their schuetzen chains and medals.

There are also a number of group photos of shooters posed at their ranges.  Most are wearing what we would call "business or business casual" clothing,  Dressier trousers, rather than jeans or overalls, band collar shirts, vests, and suit coats or jackets.  In the b/w photos it's hard to tell but it seems to me that the slacks and jackets, and often the vests match. though some vests are a lighter color  (A side note on vests:  I have read, somewhere, of normal-looking vests made especially for shooting stiffened with stays, buckram or leather for shooting for support)
    And they wore HATS, very few wore caps or kepies, and even fewer are shown bareheaded. The hats exhibit a wide range of style. The stereotypical bowler seems to be most common it is by a slim majority and there are lots of alternatives. I do not recall seeing any "cowboy" style hats

We have to remember that, while the "schuetzen" organizations were mostly an urban phenomena of the germanic sub-communities and their descendants, they attracted other shooters who enjoyed the sport and companionship (as well as the beer and the betting) who were from other cultural traditions. It also attracted fellow shooters from surrounding more rural areas and while the European origins of the sport were the middle-class urban germanic populations, in the US it was broader based.
As an organized shooting sport in an era where shooting sports ranked only below horse racing and boxing as "money sports" it attracted ALL sorts of shooters.  In various forms it spread across the country so I would imagine that one might see a slightly different "uniform" among the shooters in California, Texas, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, or the New England cities
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Reply #2 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:23am
 
As an FYI I'm attaching a copy of a photo I recently took of another photo that shows a group of schuetzen--eers in what appears to be a more rural informal setting.  It was sent to someone, and then brought to Etna Green for viewing, by one of our fellow member /shooter /collectors in the St Louis Area. Hopefully it is destined for later publication with more information and much higher quality presentation.  I am assuming it is of one of the St Louis area clubs. There were a number of clubs in that area who practiced the schuetzen style shooting  {IE  200 yard offhand match shooting, typically practiced with single shot rifles.}

Note the neckties even on the youngsters.  I forgot to include neckties in previously describing shooting attire.

In this photo you will see on the lower right a Man/ Mann target and a ring-style target on the left side.  also in the photo are two very not traditional clock faces which must have had a significant role in their way of playing the game.  However no one I talked to has any idea what their function was----(note the numbers on the clock faces)

This is a marvelous picture of a more relaxed group of shooters.  It looks like a group most of us would be rather comfortable with.
I feel the actual original was a glass plate negative since there was still very high definition in the copy I photographed.
I did use Photoshop increase the contrast a slight amount to bring out detail in my copy of a copy, but otherwise it is unaltered.   Unfortunately the site's image-constraints for posting here have mandated a reduction in size and density
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Reply #3 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 1:06pm
 
Most "cowboy" hats are a 20th century thing.

I'm wondering if the "clocks" were used to show shooters and spectators where their last shot scored. No video cams then. Wink

These guys look like my grandfathers (both western farmers and ranchers) did for going to town and to picnics. We'd be considered slobs in today's range attire, and might even be politely shown the door.
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Reply #4 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 1:20pm
 
Here are a couple of vintage photos that I came across that might be more candid as opposed to the staged vintage photos of shooters in their finest apparel, we normally see.
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Reply #5 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 1:34pm
 
DWS-- I really enjoyed reading and learning from what you posted above pertaining to, and in answer to, my initial inquire.

Additionally, I fully agree with you that the photo posted records a group of shooting enthusiasts that I would most certainly enjoy spending a day or two with in schuetzen competition.  I would hasten to add that they represent the epitome of men in a relaxed environment doing what they love to do best, i.e., schuetzen target shooting.

If you would, could you share a comment or two regarding the wearing of the "house-maide's apron" which is mentioned by Mr. Westergaard in his 1929 article which appeared in the The American Rifleman magazine.  I've posted a pdf file of that particular article in the event other readers may want to become familiar with it.

Thanks again DWS for this, and for your many other, quality contributions to the Forum readership.

Ref;  www.issa-schuetzen.org/history/westergaard-defining.pdf


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Reply #6 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 2:03pm
 
Quote:
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Randy --
             Good Photos ---we have an acquaintance with an Amish family that complements their farm income by the wife/mother taking in sewing projects.  She has proven herself to be more than capable and it would be nothing for her to turn out a house maid's apron in a quality fabric such as "Carhart canvas", or better, washable, pre-shrunk heavy cotton.

They do not have a telephone, but I would like to run a copy of your photo to show her as a pattern for what is wanted.

I like the idea of having 2 or 3 front pockets for the de-re-capper, etc. etc., while doing "standing-up" true schuetzen style shooting.

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Reply #7 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 2:53pm
 
Aprons look traditional and are very practical when shooting a schuetzen match.  Styles very similar to the ones in Randy's pictures are still available. I believe Carhartt makes an apron too. Still have a red shooting apron from one of the Coors matches at Golden.

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Reply #8 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 3:11pm
 
While the apron is certainly useful for holding the bullet seater and other accoutrements, I really like the image of shooting in shirt, tie, vest and pocket watch . . . thought I'm not sure about the straw boater!
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Reply #9 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 5:52pm
 
At matches I frequently wear an short bibbed shop apron I picked up at a local woodworkers supply to which I applied one of the ASSRA patches.   they are handy for offhand shooting but awkward of setting at the bench

Duluth Trading { I buy a lot of stuff from them}   has a great apron,  but make sure you don't get the "improved" one with the mesh pocket bottoms.  they are great for letting sawdust escape, but other small things too

www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/mens-workshop/tool-bags-tool-belts/shop-aprons-...

everything I have bought from them is very solid old fashioned quality,  without a lot of "name-brand markup"   great value for the money.
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Reply #10 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 6:03pm
 
Uniforms??
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Reply #11 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 6:16pm
 
Wonderful old photos all of them.
Just think of the stories behind those proud individuals !
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Reply #13 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:38am
 
Most body shop suppliers carry heavy cotton aprons that are used by painters when machine rubbing a paint job.     ...MIKE...
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Reply #14 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 7:49am
 
I just wish I could get my mustache as well groomed as this gentleman has done with his.

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