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SOUP German Single-Shot (Bolt) Stalking Rifle
Oct 17th, 2013 at 3:13pm
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Where SOUP = Source Of Unknown Pedigree

Bought this for $100 ca$h from my local GS ‘toy’ store - just could not resist researching her and seeing what or who she is and perhaps making a fun plinker out of her!

Based on my research from this website (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links), I would say it is an early rifle of the 1891-1939 proof era and would guess it to be a black powder-proofed rifle. There are no maker’s marks on it anywhere, less the barrel and receiver proofs shown below. But the workmanship was well done, as the double-set triggers function flawlessly and the bore is pristine!

I have not cerrosafe-cast the chamber/throat yet, but it looks to be a rimmed case, akin to size of a 30-30, probably smaller, with a bore just over a 9mm size.

Not shown, but there are deep pits (oddly, there is no rust imbedded in them) on the lower barrel OD, where hidden by the stock, at about 4-5 o’clock with the muzzle pointed away from you. I still think it could be resurrected as a shooter with light BP loads, or maybe even some Trail Boss loads for 50-yards plinking. Or perhaps relined as a 22LR!

Bore/caliber: That site referenced says, “Many earlier rifles will be found with numbers indicating the "gauge" (number of bore-sized round lead balls to the pound) diameter of the bore (not groove diameter). For instance, a number in the 95-105 range would indicate a bore diameter near .360", while a number in the 170s would indicate an 8mm of some kind. I've even seen rifles marked with a pair of gauge marks that calculated so close to the actual bore and groove dimensions it was astonishing!”

Thoughts anyone?

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All of my single shots shoot one tiny ragged hole with cast bullets ... it's just the following shots that tend to open up my groups Wink ...
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Re: SOUP German Single-Shot (Bolt) Stalking Rifle
Reply #1 - Oct 17th, 2013 at 3:15pm
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Dang it ... I sized the photos much SMALLER on both my PC and the pic host source ...  Huh
  

All of my single shots shoot one tiny ragged hole with cast bullets ... it's just the following shots that tend to open up my groups Wink ...
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Re: SOUP German Single-Shot (Bolt) Stalking Rifle
Reply #2 - Oct 17th, 2013 at 5:52pm
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Holy crap!
I have the exact CLONE of your rifle!

Mine is in storage currently, so I can't compare markings, but it's a virtualy exact copy. Well, except some ham-fisted dufus bent the bolt handle down on mine (badly).

Mine is in 8.15x46R, and need the rim trimmed down in diameter when making brass from .30-30 Win cases (which otherwise work very well to form 8.15x46R).

I too have been unable to find an "exact" match to figure out a maker, date, etc. Mine is just as unmkarked as yours.
The best I've been able to determine, it shares a lot of features with the Mauser 1871, but is different enough in dimensions that it wasn't made out of one.

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Re: SOUP German Single-Shot (Bolt) Stalking Rifle
Reply #3 - Oct 17th, 2013 at 7:14pm
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Alte Scheibenwaffen Vol 2 pgs 232, 233:

System Mauser 71 rifles

Vol 3 pgs 235-237:

Mauser-Vogelbuchsen:

These rifles were used to shoot eagle targets placed on top of poles. They used short shotgun style cartridges in 12 down to 32 gauge. With the exception of the sights, the rifle shown on page 236 is almost identical to yours. Caption reads "Small variations will be found especially in sights, trigger guards, and stock design. We have never seen one of these rifles engraved or highly embellished in any way."
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Re: SOUP German Single-Shot (Bolt) Stalking Rifle
Reply #4 - Oct 24th, 2013 at 9:15pm
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As for the proof marks visit the website of
German Gun Collectors Society.
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