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Nov 18th, 2013 at 11:09pm
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I always hear of Hoch, Long, Saeco, and Mos bullet molds but what about the molds that Fred Leeth (Pioneer) makes? Anyone using these with any success ? Dale.
  

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Reply #1 - Nov 19th, 2013 at 7:12am
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I own and use several moulds from Fred, the quality is top notch and he will make anything you want. Many designs are in his flier he can send you.

I'd put Fred's up against ANY mould maker and they are in the league of all you mentioned, or better.
  

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Reply #2 - Nov 19th, 2013 at 10:01am
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I agree with Keith, Fred Leeth's moulds are as good as any made, the machine work is very good, plus he will make you just about anything you want.   ledball
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 19th, 2013 at 10:11am
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Like Freds moulds as he offers many older original bullet styles, especially in 25 caliber, not in fashion now but they shoot extremely well in the slower twist 25 barrels.
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Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2013 at 10:42am
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phone?

email address?

link?
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 19th, 2013 at 11:20am
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Fred Leeth

Pioneer Products,
254 Johnsville Brookville Road,
Brookville, OH, 45309

937-833-2865


  pioneermolds@yahoo.com


  

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Reply #6 - Nov 19th, 2013 at 4:36pm
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Hi Dale --
             You have not mentioned the caliber of the mould that you are considering adding, but in the event that you are in need of a mould for one of the prevalent schuetzen calibers, I  would like to suggest that you give consideration to purchasing a JIM BORTON mould.

If the name sounds familiar to you, Jim Borton is one of the Forum's moderators.

I have his .32 caliber spitzer style bullet mould and it shoots excellently in my CPA 32-40 rifle.

You may reach Jim at his Personal Mail address with an inquire, if you like.

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Reply #7 - Nov 19th, 2013 at 5:00pm
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Freds moulds are tool-room quality!  The nose-pour copy of Ideal 22636 @52grs. in both g.c. & plain-base allowed me to equal best match jacketed groups in the .22 Hornet.  Had him make up a .289 170gr. for H. Scherping pre-WW1 7X57 mauser sporter, & also copy of Ideal 412263 in nose-pour style.
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Reply #8 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 10:57am
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Freds moulds are tool-room quality! 


I have at least one mould from each of the manufaturers that Dale mentions in his above list.  (I do not have a Moss mould, because when I got interested, I could never get an E-mail returned from Mr. Moss).

I have no "el'-cheapo" bullet moulds, but am interested in knowing what the term "tool room quality" means to you, if anything ?

Lots of people use the term, but mostly in a subjective context.

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Reply #9 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 12:24pm
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I called the number shown for Pioneer and got a 'leave message' answer by a ladies voice,...  Just got off the 'phone with Jim Borton.
Clicked on Buffalo's site and see the 255 gr. Saeco's are backordered.
Any other mfg. (Ohio first, then the world....) suggestions?
R
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Reply #10 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 1:00pm
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Steve Brooks makes excellent molds. Even though his web site doesn't list Schuetzen molds, he makes them. About a 3 week tyrn around time. Just give him a call.

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Reply #11 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 4:47pm
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Any other mfg. (Ohio first, then the world....) suggestions?
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I may be in a position to help you if I knew what caliber, weight, and style of mould you desire.

I also have a large quantity of .32 Cal Hudson bullets that I may dispose of if that would be of interest.  I don't have the Hudson mould, just cast bullets, which if you have Ned Robert's book you will find a write up on the tapered Hudson style.

A P.M. will be answered.

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Reply #12 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 4:52pm
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C.M.M.:  Yes I know only too well how that term is misused..for myself, 5 years in small job shop..37 years tool & die maker..still working full time..not a day goes by that I do not learn something new..and I do not consider myself yet to be a master of this trade.  To me, tool-room quality is when I am either making a replacement gun part from scratch, or restoring an original one..or perhaps turning up a special case expander..or making a complete straight-line hand bullet seater..I do not scrimp on the time it takes for a perfect fit & finish.  Thus, when I look at one of Fred Leeth's moulds...I see quality that I would be proud to have come from my own handiwork.
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