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Reply #15 - Mar 9th, 2017 at 8:02pm
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J Louis wrote on Mar 9th, 2017 at 6:11pm:
Mann has stated on occasion that bore diamter bullets proved to be more accurate than groove so it makes me wonder how well the Long Colt bullets actualy shot?


Was there a groove-diameter base band on those bullets?  Otherwise, there'd be gas-cutting.
  
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Reply #16 - Mar 9th, 2017 at 8:06pm
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BP wrote on Mar 9th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
Bullet diameters and base cavities?

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Reply #17 - Mar 9th, 2017 at 8:16pm
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Jeff_Schultz wrote on Mar 9th, 2017 at 8:06pm:
BP wrote on Mar 9th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
Bullet diameters and base cavities?

  Yeah, go ahead, I'm all ears.


The inside-lubed bullets would have been smaller by the thickness of the case walls, whatever that is, expanding at the base (theoretically) like a Minie ball. 
  
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Reply #18 - Mar 9th, 2017 at 8:39pm
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I used to have a small collection of those cartridge adapters in Marbles and Winchester. The Winchester ones were tough to find, as I figured Winchester collectors grabbed them up quickly. Some worked pretty well, while others were pretty poor accuracy.
  

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Reply #19 - Mar 10th, 2017 at 2:41pm
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Thank you all for your contribution of knowledge and experience about and with this device.

Do any of you have any idea as to value? Haven't been able to find any reference to a recent sale of one of these.

Thanks again and best regards
  
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Reply #20 - Mar 10th, 2017 at 4:28pm
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These supplemental chambers, whether Winchester or Marbles, are in my experience quite uncommon.  And while Winchester examples, no surprise, generally sell for a little more, clean, usable examples (which for Winchester refers especially to the plating) are generally offered for $25-$40 each.

If you just want to try such an accessory, a large number of new-made chambers are available from MCA Sports & CE Bullet Co.; there web site is (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links).

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Reply #21 - Mar 10th, 2017 at 4:43pm
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Be sure to check the inside for corrosion.
Some weren't cleaned inside very well after having been used, and they do go back to the black powder and corrosive priming era.
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Reply #22 - Mar 10th, 2017 at 4:57pm
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Sold mine years ago for $10 each, but last I saw were around $25-$30 for nice clean ones.
  

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Re: Winchester patent chamber insert
Reply #23 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 7:09am
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There was a guy at a Richmond, VA gun show many years ago selling a variety of newly made chamber inserts.  I bought the 32-40 size (of course) and played with it a little then put it away.  It took 32 S&W long cartridges, IIRC.

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