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Re: Stevens-Pope Ballard
Reply #30 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 1:36pm
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Since this mount is what Stevens based their scope mount on, I think someone who is a good machinist and welder could rework less expensive early Stevens mounts to make them into a base that would clamp on a Pope barrel. Of course the rear adjustment would be right hand thread and not left hand as Pope's were.
They wouldn't be Pope mounts, but clamped into the barrel cuts they'd serve the purpose and look close at a glance. Probably save a ton of dollars too, although the Stevens mounts might cost $300-$400 to start with.
  

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Re: Stevens-Pope Ballard
Reply #31 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 1:53pm
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marlinguy wrote on Feb 26th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Since this mount is what Stevens based their scope mount on, I think someone who is a good machinist and welder could rework less expensive early Stevens mounts to make them into a base that would clamp on a Pope barrel.


True, but Pope-owners (which I'm not!) shouldn't be pikers; let them shell out and save the original Stevens mounts for the many Stevens scopes that have somehow lost their proper mounts. (There's one on ebay right now.)  However, the Stevens mounts would provide a good model for the hypothetical builder to copy, if Pope mounts can't be obtained to use for that purpose. 
  
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Re: Stevens-Pope Ballard
Reply #32 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm
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Redsetter wrote on Feb 26th, 2018 at 1:53pm:
True, but Pope-owners (which I'm not!) shouldn't be pikers; let them shell out and save the original Stevens mounts for the many Stevens scopes that have somehow lost their proper mounts.


I'd hardly call anyone a piker for wanting to save several thousand dollars? And since there are many times the number of Stevens mounts vs. Pope, if I wanted mounts for my Pope, I sure wouldn't feel bad about finding a pair and making them work for myself.
Finding a Stevens scope without mounts or Stevens mounts without a scope would both take time. But if I found a pair of mounts loose, I'd consider them fair game for my purposes.
  

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Re: Stevens-Pope Ballard
Reply #33 - Mar 7th, 2018 at 7:11pm
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Someone asked me to put a price on this gun I have no idea what this is worth not that its for sale just wondering , I was told that the tang sight is a Pope sight years ago, Any ideas ?
  
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Re: Stevens-Pope Ballard
Reply #34 - Mar 8th, 2018 at 12:20pm
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winplumber wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 7:11pm:
Someone asked me to put a price on this gun I have no idea what this is worth not that its for sale just wondering , I was told that the tang sight is a Pope sight years ago, Any ideas ?


I absolutely love your Pope Ballard, but couldn't begin to make a guess. The market today is crazy, and I see them going much less than they did a decade ago. Have a couple Pope barreled rifles, and the prices a decade or two ago told me I'd never own one. But both of mine were stupid cheap and I can't say why anymore than I could guess what yours would sell for.
Maybe more pictures of your Ballard, plus any information on whatever tools and accessories accompany the gun, might help someone make a guesstimate?
  

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Re: Stevens-Pope Ballard
Reply #35 - Mar 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm
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marlinguy wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 12:20pm:
winplumber wrote on Mar 7th, 2018 at 7:11pm:
Someone asked me to put a price on this gun I have no idea what this is worth not that its for sale just wondering , I was told that the tang sight is a Pope sight years ago, Any ideas ?


I absolutely love your Pope Ballard, but couldn't begin to make a guess. The market today is crazy, and I see them going much less than they did a decade ago. Have a couple Pope barreled rifles, and the prices a decade or two ago told me I'd never own one. But both of mine were stupid cheap and I can't say why anymore than I could guess what yours would sell for.
Maybe more pictures of your Ballard, plus any information on whatever tools and accessories accompany the gun, might help someone make a guesstimate?

Thanks but what you see is what I got with this gun the false muzzle is not with it. As being a Pope I cant say it is its not marked. I was told years ago that the tang sight & lever were Pope ,who knows for sure , Im going to call it a Marlin Ballard maybe Pope Trim , Thank You for any input ! Smiley
  
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Re: Stevens-Pope Ballard
Reply #36 - Mar 8th, 2018 at 7:33pm
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Thanks for clearing that up. Without any Pope markings and since it's right hand twist it's not Pope rifling either, so it's a lot easier to guesstimate. I forgot the earlier posts telling us it wasn't a Stevens-Pope, and thus my error in thinking it was.
It's a very nicely done schuetzen rifle, with no provenance, and an unknown maker. The Pope tang sight adds a lot if it's an original Pope, and not a copy. But I see rifles like this selling anywhere from as low as $2300 to around $3,000 on the high end.
If there was some history that could be traced, or some info on who did the work, it might get more. I have a very similar Ballard I purchased last year for under $2500 and in like new condition. But no tang sight. Same lever and buttplate, and presentation grade wood.
  

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Re: Stevens-Pope Ballard
Reply #37 - Mar 8th, 2018 at 7:48pm
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Thanks !
  
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