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Reply #150 - Oct 8th, 2020 at 3:12am
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How are you going to configure the Ballard ?
  
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Reply #151 - Oct 21st, 2020 at 12:16pm
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Just received my second 414 a few days ago, and although I had presented my first one somewhere on this forum, I had not given you the details, so here goes:

#1 Stevens, 414 (impôrted to England, proofed in England and relined by A.G. Parker) S/N 69040
receiver marked TRADE MARK STEVENS  REG US PAT OFF 1 FOREIGN) 3 lines.
barrel marked: J. STEVENS A&T CO CHICOPEE FALLS MASS. USA PAT APRIL17 94

#2 Stevens 414, no foreign proof marks, s/n 74760
case hardened receiver marked: TRADE MARK STEVENS  REG US PAT OFF 1 FOREIGN) 3 lines.
barrel marked with the J STEVENS ARMS COMPANY etc... on 2 lines.
Have you ever noticed guns where the C is missing on Chiocppe falls (the gun seems to be in very good original condition)

It has an original Beach front sight and what I believe to be a Lyman 52 tang sight.

I will publish it its own right once I have taken proper pictures.

  
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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #152 - Oct 21st, 2020 at 1:05pm
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Thanks!   Your 69040 is one of the highest # yet which still has the pre-war barrel rollstamp.  Does it have the Stevens diamond on the left side of the frame?  

If the C is missing, but not the J in the line above it, the rollstamp must have been damaged. Can anybody think of another cause?
  

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Reply #153 - Oct 22nd, 2020 at 2:23am
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Hi,
I also think about a damaged stamp (the rest of the letter are cristal clear, the blueing untouched)

I can't see anything like a diamond mark on the receiver on neither guns.
I'll make my best to supply pictures of all the details, but bear with me  Smiley
  
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Reply #154 - Oct 22nd, 2020 at 4:34am
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Maybe left side like this?

  

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Reply #155 - Oct 22nd, 2020 at 8:52am
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I'm confused,where's the diamond?
  
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Reply #156 - Oct 22nd, 2020 at 12:26pm
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You're not confused, I am.  Late-night Alzheimer's.  I was thinking of a completely different gun.   
  

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Reply #157 - Oct 22nd, 2020 at 12:40pm
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no diamond mark to be found. But both guns have a circled I on the left side of the receiver (actually, on the left angled plane that connect with the receiver flat. I miss the exact word...  Embarrassed)
  
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Reply #158 - Oct 23rd, 2020 at 8:01pm
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But do they have the Stevens rollstamp on the left like the photo?
  

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Reply #159 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 2:23am
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Oh yes absolutely.
  
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Reply #160 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 4:26am
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On both?  If it's there on 69040 the upper and lower bounds  between "no stamp" and "yes, stamp" got a lot closer.   The stamp on the left is considered by some as the definitive mark of a rifle produced under Savage's ownership.  Next lower s/n with no stamp is 67866, and the first on with the stamp is 69258.
  

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Reply #161 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 7:35am
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both of them have the same stamp, on the left side of the receiver.
I'm glad I contributed to narrow the gap in the stamp/no stamp mistery  Wink Cheesy
  
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Reply #162 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 11:52am
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69040 and 74760 for your viewing pleasure and reference  Smiley
  
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Reply #163 - Apr 5th, 2021 at 1:19am
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uscra112   In rereading this post, I noticed that the book" Merchants of Death" is in fact available in used hardback from Amazon @ $55.00 if you are interested. as of today 4/4/21. Krag
  

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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #164 - Apr 5th, 2021 at 6:21am
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Must be a year ago that I bought a copy via Alibris.  Didn't tell me much about Stevens/Westinghouse at all.
  

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