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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #60 - May 8th, 2019 at 6:55pm
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cheatin_charlie wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 4:18pm:
Just bought a Model 44 in 22lr  at auction about a month ago.  Serial # 72973.
Looks like a capitol I in a circle stamped into action.  Side of action stamped
"Trade Mark Stevens".  Barrel stamped J. Stevens Arms Co.  Good shooting rifle with terrible trigger.  It has the newer case hardening not the Stevens ripple type.


Does your 44 by any chance have the coil-spring strut for the hammer?  I know the 417 had that, but wondering if it was introduced earlier.  The old flat "arch" spring gave a slower hammer fall, but I find it easier to get a good trigger pull with it. 
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Reply #61 - May 8th, 2019 at 8:57pm
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It has the flat main spring in it.  Off to the gunsmith tomorrow to get the trigger worked on.  My gauge only goes to 6.5 lbs. and the hammer still did not fall.  No hair trigger for sure!
  
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Reply #62 - May 8th, 2019 at 9:31pm
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That's BAD for a 44.  May be that the wear is thru the case hardening of the hammer notch.
  
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Reply #63 - May 9th, 2019 at 12:33am
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I believe someone on the list has a very late 44 with a coil spring.
  
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Reply #64 - May 10th, 2019 at 2:42am
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Wow, that's WAY up there in the s/n sequence if that number is being reported correctly!
  
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Reply #65 - May 10th, 2019 at 2:57am
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cheatin_charlie wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 4:18pm:
Just bought a Model 44 in 22lr  at auction about a month ago.  Serial # 72973.
Looks like a capitol I in a circle stamped into action.  Side of action stamped
"Trade Mark Stevens".  Barrel stamped J. Stevens Arms Co.  Good shooting rifle with terrible trigger.  It has the newer case hardening not the Stevens ripple type.


What is the barrel rollstamp?  J.Stevens A&T, or just J Stevens Arms?  That number is right on the break in my database.  And what sights does it have?
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Reply #66 - May 10th, 2019 at 8:32am
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Barrel reads "J. Stevens Arms Co", the rifle is at the gunsmith for trigger work.
Barrel sights are Lyman No. 5 front and Lyman No. 6 rear. Two dollar upgrade of sights for a ten dollar rifle of the day according to my reprinted Stevens cat. 52.
serial no. is correct 72973.
  
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Reply #67 - May 10th, 2019 at 11:01am
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Thanks!
  
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Reply #68 - May 20th, 2019 at 1:45pm
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Phil, I am really happy to see a serial number study being done. Look forward to even a teaser publication.
Add #35860 25-20SS J. Stevens Arms Company, 6 O'clock, if it matters. Plain Jane with my apologies to any Janes out there - no offense! Wayne
  
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Reply #69 - May 20th, 2019 at 4:54pm
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LarryLee wrote on May 20th, 2019 at 1:45pm:
Phil, I am really happy to see a serial number study being done. Look forward to even a teaser publication.
Add #35860 25-20SS J. Stevens Arms Company, 6 O'clock, if it matters. Plain Jane with my apologies to any Janes out there - no offense! Wayne


Thanks, Wayne.  Actually yours is interesting.  That's the lowest s/n yet which has the J. Stevens Arms Company barrel rollstamp.  This would help define where in the s/n sequence the manufacture was taken over by Savage, save that there are many more of later s/n that bear the old J. Stevens A & T Co. stamp.  My surmise is that you have a replacement barrel there.  Whenever a 44 received a new factory barrel, they would have stamped the original s/n on the new barrel, since barrels do not interchange from one receiver to another.
  
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Reply #70 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 5:54pm
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My model 44; j.stevens A. &T. CO pat. APR.17.94     32LONG R.F.  with upgraded sights f&r, sn; 13781 tight and in pristine condition. what year made?
  
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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #71 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 7:50pm
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It will have the 7:00 extractor, and the breechblock and lever pivot screws will be .288 diameter, more or less. 

Model 44s start in 1896, at about s/n 3000, and the last of the side extractors with one-piece screw pivots falls at about s/n 14500.  We think that the change to the two-piece pivots occurred in 1899 or 1900, based vaguely on catalogue references.  So 13781 would likely be 1898 or 1899.  Can't be more precise than that.

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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #72 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:02pm
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Jack Harrison, who posts here and on Gunbroker as >tenmile<, sells adapter cases and the correct heeled bullets to make your .32 Rimfire speak again in her native tongue.  He suggests Level 1 or Level 2 Ramset charges as propellant, but I much prefer to use "Acorn Blanks" as primer and 2.0 grains of Bullseye.  The effort required to remove the Ramset cases is enough IMHO to shorten the life of the adapters.

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n.b. Jack's adapters are made by swaging down .32 S&W Long brass.  As such they are longer than .32 RF, and so must be trimmed to length to fit your rifle.
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