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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #90 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 10:28pm
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Thanks!  I can infer some of the features it will have, but would be good know:

1. Sights?  Standard was Sporting Rear w/Rocky Mountain front, but as an option we often find a Lyman tang sight and Beach style front. 

2. Half-round half-octagon barrel, or all-round?

3. What is barrel roll-stamp?  Either J. Stevens Arms and Tool, or just J. Stevens Arms?  In that s/n range it could be either one.

4. Is receiver stamped on left side with Stevens inside a diamond outline?  This is close to the s/n where that marking first appears, but it should in fact not have it if it runs true to form.

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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #91 - Dec 19th, 2019 at 8:53am
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Sadly there were no sights on the rifle when purchased. The barrel is half and half 26 inches long. The roll stamp just has the word Stevens. The reciever has no markings other than the serial number which matches the barrel.
Rifle had been lined with a red man liner, chambered to .22 lr. Sadly the liner is for a .22 short. It has now re built as a .22 lr, sporting a 26 inch Green Mtn barrel and new stock. This 44 was my introduction into the world of falling blocks. Started the disease with no cure.

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Reply #92 - Dec 19th, 2019 at 9:09pm
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Yup.  I started with one dilapidated 44 just to practice gunsmithing on, now I've got a baker's dozen!   Shocked
  
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Reply #93 - Dec 19th, 2019 at 10:06pm
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FYI I have a Stevens 44, #77992, 25 RF, 26" round barrel, sporting rear sight, folding combination front, rear tang drilled with two small holes for tang sight but never had one mounted, case colored action, 6 o'clock extractor, I in circle on left rear of barrel and on left side of receiver, Stevens on left side of receiver but no outline, J. Stevens Arms Company on barrel, "S" and "O" on front of receiver.  Rifle is in excellent original condition and bore is like new.  Any other information I can give let me know.  Thanks, Wally Smith
  
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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #94 - Dec 20th, 2019 at 12:27am
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Thanks! 

Do you know how to slug a barrel?  I'm interested in knowing the groove diameter.  There's been controversy over whether the .25 rimfires are .257 nominal or something smaller. 

Also a photo of the receiver would be nice.  Not long before this one, Stevens seems to have changed the case color process so that the old distinctive "ripple" pattern is replaced with a more mottled appearance.  I'm tracking that.



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Reply #95 - Feb 12th, 2020 at 10:05pm
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I have a Stevens Model 47, but not the "range rifle", with a 44 action. The lever is not the common style and not the loop.  But the barrel is marked with the conventional Stevens stamps, SN on barrel is the same as SN on action.  Barrel is marked 25/20, standard Stevens markings.  But the groove diameter is .251 and the twist is 1:17.  Front of action is marked 47 and EX, as well as the mysterious 0s.
  
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Reply #96 - Feb 12th, 2020 at 11:53pm
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Adds fuel to the argument over what the bullet diameter of the Stevens .25 rimfire was.  Some (including Barnes) claim it was .251, but in my collection of Favorites and 44s they all slug around .256 to .258. 

The .251 faction will claim that your barrel was a rimfire blank that somehow got chambered .25-20. 

What's your s/n?  Do I have it in my database?  Do I have pictures? 

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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #97 - Feb 13th, 2020 at 8:11pm
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uscra112 wrote on Feb 12th, 2020 at 11:53pm:
Adds fuel to the argument over what the bullet diameter of the Stevens .25 rimfire was.  Some (including Barnes) claim it was .251, but in my collection of Favorites and 44s they all slug around .256 to .258. 

The .251 faction will claim that your barrel was a rimfire blank that somehow got chambered .25-20. 

What's your s/n?  Do I have it in my database?  Do I have pictures? 

Phil




You already have the rifle in your database.

I' one of the .251 faction.  I think it is just an example of sloppy work & poor supervision at Stevens A&T, not a special order.  I think the EX was for a better-than-average stock & buttplate and a non-standard lever.
  
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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #98 - Feb 13th, 2020 at 11:44pm
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Other people, including myself, have argued that "EX" does indeed imply that the rifle has non-cataloged features for its model number.  UNFORTUNATELY, "EX" has also been reported on this forum to be found on rifles that exactly match their catalog description.  I believer the expression is "Go figure!"

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