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Need a little help to ID Highwall
Sep 10th, 2014 at 2:24pm
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Greetings,
Need a little help.  I saved this Highwall out of an attic 20 years ago; been in the safe since.  Moving and it needs to go (with lots of other stuff Smiley.  Any thoughts as to its originality?  Maybe someone knows the rifle?  Can anyone point me in right direction.  Any help appreciated.


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Reply #1 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 4:46pm
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Your link doesn't work for me. Just post a couple of pics and details like the serial number, cartridge (marked on the barrel top in front of the receiver) and barrel size (on the bottom of the barrel just in front of the forearm wood) and length (you'll need a tape measure for this Wink).
  

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Reply #2 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 5:05pm
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Have you contacted the Cody Muesum to see if it letters, that would be your best approach. If it doesn't letter opinions might be your only option, Gary Quinlans would be one of a few that can be trusted so do not hesitate to converse with him.

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Reply #3 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 8:32pm
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Very nice rifle. Obviously, up-graded & checkered wood. Looks to be in excellent condition. Cartridge/caliber is marked 45-70. Though you did not give me the serial number, can see that it is a 'coil-spring' model, which means it is 1906 or newer. Single-set trigger. With that crescent buttplate, it will be a most uncomfortable rifle to shoot in any position other than off-hand due to recoil. Am guessing that is a #3 half-round barrel, but appears original, so will be marked on the bottom in front of the forearm. Someone more knowledgeable will tell you what sights those are. Either Marbles or Lyman rear.  As JLouis states, is worth getting the letter from the Cody Firearms Museum (google them) to see if it is all original. A reasonably valuable rifle if it is.
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Reply #4 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 8:52pm
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Here's one of the pic's. Others are comparable. One other note. If you deal with Gary Quinlan, remember that he is in business. He buys low and sells high. That's the way businesses work.
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:26pm
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Thanks for feedback.
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27pm
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The barrel is half octagon and marked #4. The breech block appears to have a safety firing pin installed.
  

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Reply #7 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:29pm
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Tang sight is a Marbles Flexible model.

  

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Reply #8 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:33pm
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In the photobucket pictures, the barrel is stamped 4.

Note that the receiver ring is stamped with the Win. proof mark. Would that mean it left the Winchester plant, unfinished?

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Reply #9 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:51pm
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From the Winchester Book by Madis...

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Caliber .22 rifle barrels began to receive the proof mark in 1908, and in 1908 all guns were marked on both barrel and receiver with the Winchester Proof Mark. All barrels and receivers which were furnished for fitting by outside parties were marked with the mail order proof, a letter P in an oval, from 1912 and on.


  

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Reply #10 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 10:24pm
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Thank you, Brian.

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Reply #11 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 10:27pm
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I've got an 1885 stamped the same way, a proof mark on the receiver ring as well as on the barrel.  It's a little earlier with s/n 1017xx.

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Reply #12 - Sep 11th, 2014 at 8:11am
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Best info could find on when made is 'after 1919'. Cody museum may have better info.
  

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Reply #13 - Sep 13th, 2014 at 4:33pm
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frnkeore wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:33pm:
In the photobucket pictures, the barrel is stamped 4.

Note that the receiver ring is stamped with the Win. proof mark. Would that mean it left the Winchester plant, unfinished?

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No, it does not mean that it was unfinished.
  

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Reply #14 - Sep 13th, 2014 at 4:36pm
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SSShooter wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 8:11am:
Best info could find on when made is 'after 1919'. Cody museum may have better info.


The serial number in question was manufactured in the year 1916. Cody has the serial number records up to 115308 (May 26th, 1914).
  

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