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Reply #30 - Jun 2nd, 2016 at 12:07pm
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of more of the catalog
  
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another page of Dave Catalog
  
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and the page of the catalog about Custer's letter to Remington.
  
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Then he sent a few photos of rifles he made or could make your's like with a photo of himself holding one of his nice rifles.
  
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Price sheet for extras that could be included on your rifle.
  
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Reply #36 - Jun 2nd, 2016 at 10:10pm
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Mine, 0044, the Silhouette model (12# 7oz) has a #4 Badger 34 1/4” barrel (1:16 twist) stamped LONE STAR (8# 7oz trigger pull) but it is unique with the brass plate and trigger guard – no pistol grip and cheek piece butt stock
Per Blue Book of Values, Dave established business in 1992. Made ~ 12 different models, different calibers.  No mention of any brass trigger guard or Silhouette model with no pistol grip from 1999 to 2006

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Reply #37 - Jun 2nd, 2016 at 10:43pm
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To all the Gentlemen that posted your Lone Star's - invoices - pictures and catalogs to this thread - I Sincerely Thank You.  I never envisioned we would have so many of Dave's rifles and supporting documentation identified in one thread.  Absolutely, not a complete listing but without a doubt, the most informative composite listing known to date.
Bear with me I have not individually listed all the rifles in the first post yet.  My intent is to do this.

I would like to continue the thread, because there are many questions about Dave's rifles that are unknown.  Maybe we can fill in the blanks:
* Barrel sources - known to be Green Mountain & Badger
* Actions - his source of them?  Interesting, there are several variations in addition to clones of original Remington #1 actions ... (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
* Did Dave make his own butt stocks & forearms ... or were they subcontracted?
* Butt Plates - subcontracted from who or did he make them?
* Checkering - subcontracted or did he do his own?

And my mystery is - why does my 0044 have a brass trigger guard and who did Dave obtain it from.  It is an anomaly compared to all his other rifles he made!  And why the original owner put a cheap Italian vernier on the rifle  with 4mm tapped base screws and a Lyman 17A foresight... is beyond me  Cry
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Re: Lone Star Rolling Block Serial Numbers
Reply #38 - Jun 2nd, 2016 at 11:29pm
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Lone Star #114, 45-70, 32" Badger barrel, no pistol grip. Purchased approx. 1995.
  
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Reply #39 - Jun 3rd, 2016 at 1:25pm
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0044 with the brass trigger guard looks like it might be a Italian made rolling block.

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Reply #40 - Jun 3rd, 2016 at 1:45pm
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powderman wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 1:25pm:
0044 with the brass trigger guard looks like it might be a Italian made rolling block.

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So you think that Dave acquired an Italian made rolling block and stamped his Lone Star logo and serial number on a rifle he did not make?  Am I misunderstanding your  post?
I hardly think that Dave would risk his reputation like that. 
  

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Reply #41 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 9:26am
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John and Vall,
Thanks for the comments on my Lone Stars.
Dave surely had a talent for building these copies.
Every bit on par with the fit and finish of a Shiloh Sharps.
Here are a couple shots from two calendar/catalogs I have. 1999 and 2009.
I like the one with Dave and a Friend at what I assume is Custer's Last Stand.
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Reply #42 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 10:35am
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nineteen76, thanks for sharing the Lone Star calendars.  Very interesting  and entertaining.
  

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Re: Lone Star Rolling Block Serial Numbers
Reply #43 - Jun 5th, 2016 at 2:00am
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have been an admirer of Remington Rolling Block Sporting and Target Rifles. I have also admired Whitney Rolling Block Sporting and Target Rifles, as well as those from the Scandinavian countries, and I would suggest there are some stylistic differences amongst them, such as in the contours of the frame, breech block and hammer spur, trigger guard , and trigger.

Having an interest in the rolling block sporters, I came across Dave at a gun show in Denver about 30 years ago where he had a table set up I was able to admire several rolling block rifles he made and I was quite taken with the quality of workmanship. All had the contours of those made by Remington as do the rolling blocks pictured in this thread, other than #0044.

It would appear that Dave probably made the frame of #0044 from scratch. I was just saying style of #0044 looks like the Pedersoli rolling blocks. We have the answer thanks to majorfs45’s  posting of a page from one of Dave’s catalogues in Reply #31. I made my post before I read through the catalogue pages posted by majorfs45.

I have posted some photos of Pedersoli Rollers which it turns out were designed by Mr. Higgenbotham.








  
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Re: Lone Star Rolling Block Serial Numbers
Reply #44 - Jun 5th, 2016 at 12:46pm
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That catalog in message 31 does say "with the introduction of our new American made actions... our Lone Star rifles are now 100% American made" which implies that before this they were not. So #44 may have Italian parts. Also the message that has his comments about being in Italy designing guns for Pedersoli mentions an inline muzzleloader based on the rolling block but not the Pedersoli rolling block itself (doesn't that go back to the early 60s with Navy Arms?).
  
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