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Re: Lone Star Rolling Block Serial Numbers
Reply #90 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:13pm
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Dave Higgenbothem marked all of his rifles - Lone Star on the barrel and the serial number on the receiver tang

Total production is guessed to be no more than 500 rifles and probably less than 500.  Accordingly, your serial number RB of 3295 is not a Lone Star riifle. 

If the rifle barrel has a proof mark, you will be able to determine who made the Italian rifle.  No proof mark or makers name - it's unknown
Hope you didn't pay a 'Lone Star' price for the rifle and if you did - might want to have a talk with the seller
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Reply #91 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:22pm
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Thanks John.
I answered in haste, the serial number from memory was not correct. Pictures attached. Clearly, someone who did very good work took an old frame and upgraded it. For whatever reason only the 38-55 on the underside of the barrel was added.
I could buy a lot of rifles for what I paid, but probably not your Lone Star.
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Reply #92 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:36pm
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Only one picture to a post? Based on reply #14, I might find some info if I remove the butt stock.

...and If I had seen George C.'s post I would have known that without rereading the whole thread. Thanks George.

Post #49 says that a customer could bring in his own action for refit. Clearly somebody liked this old Scandinavian.

If I ever decide to sell it I'll have to pull off the butt stock first.
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Reply #93 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:42pm
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The action is a c-crown with 1875 on one side and a serial number on the other. half-way down the barrel is a very light "38-55".

What you have is a Carl Gustafs Gevärfaktori in Eskilstuna, Sweden - 1875 Swedish Rolling block that were chambered for 12.7x44R centerfire - which someone converted to 38-55.  It's a 38-55 replacement barrel that was put on the action because there are no Swedish marking
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So, this is the end of the story for your rifle
  

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Reply #94 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 3:54pm
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The end of the story came when I took the sight and stock off.
...No Lone Star markings. So even if it was done by Dave in Conroe, unless he recorded it somewhere in a record book as a Lone Star, it isn't.
  
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Reply #95 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 1:32am
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John Boy wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:13pm:
Dave Higgenbothem marked all of his rifles - Lone Star on the barrel and the serial number on the receiver tang

Mine has the Lone Star on the top tang and the serial number on the bottom tang. The barrel only has the chambering, on the bottom just ahead of the forend.
  

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Reply #96 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:55pm
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I am just now joining this group.  Let me introduce myself.  My name is Don Abrams and I worked with Dave Higginbotham from about 1994 until about 1999.  I have been reading the thread about serial numbers etc. for the rifles made by Lone Star Rifles.  I met Dave as part of the THSS - Texas Historical Shooting Society, Cowboy Action Shooting (SASS).  Later got interested in BPCRS.  Had some experience in machine shop work, and talked to Dave about working in his shop to build my own rifle in exchange for helping him with his other work.  Built my rifle, used it with Dave as spotter to win the first Texas BPCRS championship in 1996 and in 1997 beat Steve Garbe to win the first East/West challenge match in Kansas.  So much for my credentials.  Will add more details later.  But regarding serial numbers.  The rule was - we will put just about any serial number you want.  Explains the difficulty in tracking serial numbers.  When i built my rifle cerca 1995 I wanted serial number 40 but was already taken.  It is possible at this time that Dave had built close to 40 rifles, a mixture of various original Rollers and a few built on castings slightly undersized (the mold was made from an original in a silicone mold).  My rifle was built using one of these castings.  I will continue to add my recollections about Dave, Katha, and Lone Star Rifle Company as time permits.  Dave was a great guy, and i miss him greatly!   Later.
  
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Reply #97 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 1:33pm
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Don - Welcome and hoping you return soon to fill dotted lines respective to Dave and the Lone Stars.  When you return, if you can add additional information to mine - #0044, I would be appreciative.  Of all the rifles Dave made, this is the only one identified with a brass trigger guard and tang.  Plus, no mention anywhere of Silhouette rifles ... (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  

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Reply #98 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 6:11am
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Donald41 wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:55pm:
I am just now joining this group.  Let me introduce myself.  My name is Don Abrams and I worked with Dave Higginbotham from about 1994 until about 1999.  I have been reading the thread about serial numbers etc. for the rifles made by Lone Star Rifles.  I met Dave as part of the THSS - Texas Historical Shooting Society, Cowboy Action Shooting (SASS).  Later got interested in BPCRS.  Had some experience in machine shop work, and talked to Dave about working in his shop to build my own rifle in exchange for helping him with his other work.  Built my rifle, used it with Dave as spotter to win the first Texas BPCRS championship in 1996 and in 1997 beat Steve Garbe to win the first East/West challenge match in Kansas.  So much for my credentials.  Will add more details later.  But regarding serial numbers.  The rule was - we will put just about any serial number you want.  Explains the difficulty in tracking serial numbers.  When i built my rifle cerca 1995 I wanted serial number 40 but was already taken.  It is possible at this time that Dave had built close to 40 rifles, a mixture of various original Rollers and a few built on castings slightly undersized (the mold was made from an original in a silicone mold).  My rifle was built using one of these castings.  I will continue to add my recollections about Dave, Katha, and Lone Star Rifle Company as time permits.  Dave was a great guy, and i miss him greatly!   Later.


Don,
Hello old friend. As you said dave would stamp anything you wanted. As long as it was one of his rollers.
He did a highwall in 45-70 and would not mark it for me.
  
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Reply #99 - Jan 26th, 2018 at 4:11pm
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Hi John Boy. I recently aquired another Lone star roller
Serial number and picture to follow soon
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Reply #100 - Jan 26th, 2018 at 4:16pm
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I recently acquired another Lone star roller
Serial number and picture to follow soon

Dave, Congratulations ... will add it to the list.  If you know it's birth date, add that to the post also
  

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Reply #101 - Jan 27th, 2018 at 1:25pm
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Have the Lone Star rifles reached collector status and what would make them collectable beside not being made anymore?  Like to hear some opinions. 

Note:  Maybe I didn't word my post correctly and if I did I apologize.  Just trying to get a handle on value and and if there is more of a demand for the Lone Stars now.  I posted some photos of mine earlier in this thread. It has become a safe queen since I don't shoot it anymore and I am thinking that it would be better served  to put it back in service.

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Reply #102 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 12:22pm
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GeorgeC wrote on Jan 27th, 2018 at 1:25pm:
Have the Lone Star rifles reached collector status and what would make them collectable beside not being made anymore?  Like to hear some opinions. 

Note:  Maybe I didn't word my post correctly and if I did I apologize.  Just trying to get a handle on value and and if there is more of a demand for the Lone Stars now.  I posted some photos of mine earlier in this thread. It has become a safe queen since I don't shoot it anymore and I am thinking that it would be better served  to put it back in service.

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My answer is yes, but to a point. It really depends on the individual guns from what I've seen of guns sold. The guns that were 100% built by Lonestar seem to have higher values vs. guns reworked by Lonestar. And then the level of build will also have a great influence on how collectable the guns are. Those done in very high finish, with high end wood, and pistol grip stocks, checkering, half octagon barrels, etc. will get the highest collector interest.
  

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Reply #103 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 12:35pm
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Thanks, Vall.  My Lone Star has the serial # LS0001.  At the beginning of this thread I posted some photos: one of the rifle, one of the original invoice, and one of the serial #.  Just trying to get an idea of its worth. It is a safe queen and I would like to sell it to someone who would use it. (Disclaimer: This is not an offer to sell) 

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Reply #104 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 11:18am
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George,
I would think that a gun like yours with all the proper markings, plus documentation also, would be extremely desirable to anyone who is a fan of Dave's work. I'm not an expert on values of Lonestar rifles, or I'd try to help with giving you an idea of values. But I'm sure there's someone here who is and can help you.
  

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