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May 6th, 2017 at 8:01am
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how did stevens mark the bbl for the 25/20 wcf?
  
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Reply #1 - May 6th, 2017 at 9:26am
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Looking through a few late Stevens catalogs, I don't even find that chambering listed as being available.
  
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Reply #2 - May 6th, 2017 at 10:29am
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ok, the old memory maybe worse than I thought. will a 25/20 wcf reamer clean up a 25/20 ss chamber?
  
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Reply #3 - May 6th, 2017 at 10:32am
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scharfe wrote on May 6th, 2017 at 10:29am:
ok, the old memory maybe worse than I thought. will a 25/20 wcf reamer clean up a 25/20 ss chamber?


No, the Win is about 5/16 to short.

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thanks for all the help. you guys are just great !!!
  
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Reply #5 - May 7th, 2017 at 5:02pm
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Don't think I have ever seen a Stevens with a factory-marked 25-20 WCF barrel.  Not sure they made any.  25-20 SS is a better cartridge, brass from Captech/Jamison.

But beware of any Stevens .25 caliber markings.  I have a 44-action Model 47 marked "25-20" in the original Stevens manner.  It is a .25 rimfire barrel, 17" twist, .252 groove.  Some of the Stevens work was just plain sloppy.
  
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Reply #6 - May 7th, 2017 at 5:41pm
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waterman wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 5:02pm:
Don't think I have ever seen a Stevens with a factory-marked 25-20 WCF barrel.  Not sure they made any.


Can't believe they did, with three proprietary .25s of their own to promote.  But that .25-20 mis-marking is beyond careless! Would be mighty upsetting to buy such a gun at a show, then later find you'd bought an all but unusable RF.
  
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Reply #7 - May 8th, 2017 at 3:00am
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waterman wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 5:02pm:
Don't think I have ever seen a Stevens with a factory-marked 25-20 WCF barrel.  Not sure they made any.  25-20 SS is a better cartridge, brass from Captech/Jamison.

But beware of any Stevens .25 caliber markings.  I have a 44-action Model 47 marked "25-20" in the original Stevens manner.  It is a .25 rimfire barrel, 17" twist, .252 groove.  Some of the Stevens work was just plain sloppy.


Conversely, a while ago I acquired an unmarked barrel in near mint condition, chambered for .25 Stevens RF, but which has a .257 groove diameter.   It does have a serial number.

Stevens ballooned from a 75 man shop in 1895 to a huge concern with hundreds and hundreds of workers by 1900.  Not too surprising that detail management may have been slipshod.
  

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Reply #8 - May 8th, 2017 at 3:16am
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My .25-20 Stevens with the .25 rimfire barrel marked 25-20  has the usual Stevens serial numbers on barrel and action.  Both are the same.  The rifle is chambered for .25-20 Single Shot.  They jammed the reamer into a .25 rimfire barrel, 17" twist.  Oddly, it shoots pretty well with 77 and 86-87 grain bullets, but so far my trials of 60 grain bullets have been disappointing.  100 grain bullets tumble.
  
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Reply #9 - May 8th, 2017 at 9:13am
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uscra112 wrote on May 8th, 2017 at 3:00am:
[quote author=283E2B3A2D323E315F0 link=1494072076/5#5 date=1494190951]Not too surprising that detail management may have been slipshod.


Surprising only that more serious problems didn't result.  Even though there were undoubtedly more skilled machine operators in and around the Conn. R. Valley than any other place in the country, it's amazing Stevens could recruit so many so quickly.
  
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Reply #10 - May 8th, 2017 at 11:56am
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I got a low wall with an 87,xxx s/n with a 23 and 1/8th barrel on it where the 25-2... disappears under the receiver ring.  Has a guy named Neidner's name stamped on the barrel.  Suppose you would have to do the same, but I hear he was good at such stuff.  Or do what I do with my Hopkins & Allen and Stevens - reload 25-20SS and have fun with it.  25-20 WCF came out for the '92 Win, but a couple of years later.
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Reply #11 - May 10th, 2017 at 10:39am
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"guy named Neidner's name stamped on the barrel". was there any other markings like malden, mass or Dowagiac, mich ? does it have stevens markings ? you wrote neidner was it actually niedner ?
  
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scharfe wrote on May 10th, 2017 at 10:39am:
you wrote neidner was it actually niedner ?


Both were masters of their craft.
  
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Reply #13 - May 10th, 2017 at 1:59pm
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Both were masters of their craft.

All right, I'll bite.  We almost all know who (Adolph O. ["Pop"]) Niedner was; who was Neidner?

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Reply #14 - May 10th, 2017 at 2:27pm
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i'm wondering  too. too scared to ask first though. still have my shares in the Brooklyn Bridge, they maybe worth something someday.
  
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