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Reply #45 - Aug 4th, 2017 at 6:10pm
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Thanks Vall I thought there might not be enough elevation adustments prior to posting without having to change scope block heights.

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Reply #46 - Aug 4th, 2017 at 7:06pm
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Thanks for the reply and the info on your meet. Wish we had something like that here(Georgia)but if it isn't a "black gun" seems most folks are not interested. Looking at the videos it looks like a blast especially the expressions on peoples faces when they have a hit..... We did have a buffalo match at my club but it kinda went away for lack of interest. Again keep us posted.
  
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Reply #47 - Aug 4th, 2017 at 7:12pm
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I do have one old full length scope that I put MVA long range mounts on, and haven't tried it at our fun matches yet. It's on a Ballard in .44 Long, and should have quite an arc to the bullet's flight as I load a 240 gr. bullet to around 1250 fps.
  

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Reply #48 - Aug 4th, 2017 at 7:17pm
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jhm wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
Thanks for the reply and the info on your meet. Wish we had something like that here(Georgia)but if it isn't a "black gun" seems most folks are not interested. Looking at the videos it looks like a blast especially the expressions on peoples faces when they have a hit..... We did have a buffalo match at my club but it kinda went away for lack of interest. Again keep us posted.


We've had guys come from the East Coast to shoot. One fried is from South Carolina and coms every year. He has his guns and ammo shipped out, and then rents a U Haul van and sleeps in it each night. A couple guys from New Jersey last year who came out, and a couple more from Texas. More people show up from far away than from within 500 miles! I'm one of the closer ones, as it's an 8 hour drive for me.
Lots of fun if you ever get the itch to travel and make it out some time! You sure wont regret it! But you'll likely put on 10 lbs. the way we cook for each other!
  

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Reply #49 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 7:23pm
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Well it seems I've been chasing my tail a bit, and wasted "waterman's" assistance too! The last name of Walter was not "Stern", but rather "Stier"!
Got an email today confirming the last name and quickly Googled it to find an obituary, and a lot of his history.

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No mention of Walt being a shooter, so nothing to go along with this gun's history in that direction. Still a good amount of history.
  

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Reply #50 - Aug 15th, 2017 at 9:19am
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Vall's Scheutzen Ballard display was breathtaking, and very cool to hear the depth of knowledge that Vall has. His passion really comes out when he's talking about Ballards.

And I did put on 5 pounds this year at Happenz, even with trying to eat lightly.
  
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Reply #51 - Aug 15th, 2017 at 10:48am
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I will soon receive 40 years of Walter's load data for the Pope set, along with a large quantity of brass, and loading components! Still need to get dies for the .22 barrel that turned out to be .218 Bee, and not .22WCF.
  

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Reply #52 - Aug 28th, 2017 at 5:22pm
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marlinguy wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 10:48am:
I will soon receive 40 years of Walter's load data for the Pope set, along with a large quantity of brass, and loading components! Still need to get dies for the .22 barrel that turned out to be .218 Bee, and not .22WCF.



A monumental day for me today! The two binders of Walter Stier's work came today! (20 lbs. worth!) Had little certain knowledge of what might be in the two volumes, and didn't want to get my hopes up and be disappointed. But it seems whatever hopes I had were much lower than what I discovered upon opening his binders!
There's a lot here to be discovered, and I'll be weeks absorbing most of it, and some of it I'll never understand! Walter being an engineer, had an engineer's mind working when he worked up his loads. The ballistic tables and math are over the top, and just amaze me that someone took so much interest and spent so much time calculating and drawing graphs, and such for every caliber he had!
Another discovery that wasn't a surprise, is Walt was an owner of a fair number of guns! I found data for probably a dozen calibers or more, and both rifle and pistol calibers! In the larger binder I also found numerous receipts for guns dating from the 1960's up to 1980's. Some used, and some new, like a C Sharps 1874 in .45-70 purchased for @$540 new. And it appears Walter also had a Ballard in .40-90 Ballard, as he did load data for it also, with BP and Pyrodex!
That same larger binder contains a huge assortment of catalogs, articles, and computer data he worked up. It also contains original letters from names like Charles Huntington, son of Fred Huntington when Fred was owner of RCBS. Letters from others also, and copies of letters he sent out to well known gun writers.
Going to have to try and figure some of this stuff out, as the math might require a consultation with another engineer! Walter did love his ballistics, and calculated bullet's flight, recoil, and other things for every caliber he shot!!
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Reply #53 - Aug 28th, 2017 at 5:49pm
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Vall, Vall, Vall! When you fall into it you fall in a really big way! Way to go.
  
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Reply #54 - Aug 28th, 2017 at 6:07pm
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oneatatime wrote on Aug 28th, 2017 at 5:49pm:
Vall, Vall, Vall! When you fall into it you fall in a really big way! Way to go.


Thanks Chauncey! I also found a gun inventory sheet in one of the two binders with about 30 guns listed. Top of the sheet is the Pope set. Lower down is a '66 Henry in .44 Rimfire. A couple drillings, double rifles, a Westley Richards SxS, some old Colt SAA.
  

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