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Jun 9th, 2017 at 8:46am
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Reply #1 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 9:02am
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Looks like the "Missouri estate" was a few pretty nice guns!
  

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If I can put through a mortgage on my house before the auction ends, I'll go for it.
  
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I checked the payment terms and they didn't list grand children, dogs, x wives or obnoxious neighbors.
  
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Worth 2 grand easy.

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And even I could remember the serial number!
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 1:15pm
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Certainly an interesting period cased Maynard set with a really nifty serial number. A few observations - the unfortunately poor photo of the right side of the action seems to show an 1882 model stamp, however the hammer appears to be of the 1873 type. A Model 15 action stock would probably be checkered, this one is not, and the good condition wood appears to be rather plain standard straight grain walnut. The one pictured mounted barrel with the checkered tip stock (fore end) shows some sort not expected globe front sight and a singular nickel plated straight stock lever. Another oddity is that one of the longer barrels which appears to have a rear barrel sight has an S style lever which is usually associated with a pistol grip action. None of this takes anything away from an intriguing typically often mixed Maynard assembled combination. After all this set very well illustrates how flexible this system was advertised to be and actually could be for the shooting sportsman. My only wish is that the seller was providing more detailed information and more and better photographs for our consideration.

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Reply #7 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 1:23pm
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great eye capt bob. wonderful evaluation. you are certainly the maynard go to guy in my book.
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 5:22pm
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Captain Bob wrote on Jun 9th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
A Model 15 action stock would probably be checkered, this one is not, and the good condition wood appears to be rather plain standard straight grain walnut...Bob


Checkered is what the catalog says, but surprisingly, a forearm was an extra cost option on a #15!  Lack of forearms on most models is the thing that has always put me off both Maynards & Stevens Tip-ups. 

Should imagine stock is numbered, but it would probably be a big mistake to ask seller to get near it with a screwdriver.

  
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Reply #9 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 5:23pm
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In reality John Bly on this forum is The Master of all things Maynard, I am just a humble student of his learned wisdom...

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Reply #10 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 7:37pm
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Redsetter wrote on Jun 9th, 2017 at 5:22pm:
Captain Bob wrote on Jun 9th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
A Model 15 action stock would probably be checkered, this one is not, and the good condition wood appears to be rather plain standard straight grain walnut...Bob


Checkered is what the catalog says, but surprisingly, a forearm was an extra cost option on a #15!  Lack of forearms on most models is the thing that has always put me off both Maynards & Stevens Tip-ups. 

Should imagine stock is numbered, but it would probably be a big mistake to ask seller to get near it with a screwdriver.



You and me too! We may be in the minority, but I've never had much interest in Maynard or Tip Up Stevens. But they certainly have a large following by others!
  

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Reply #11 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 9:10pm
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Captain Bob is correct in his observations. The early 1882 models used the '73 style hammer. This rifle has the '73 style firing pin also but it should have a smaller tip than the '73 firing pin. The case is not a Mass Arms case. It's an aftermarket case probably made to order for the buyer. Factory cased sets had loading tools included.

The tip stock is checkered whereas the butt stock is not. I doubt if all the barrels serial number to the frame. Some of the barrels may not have serial numbers at all which would indicate that they were sold separately. I think this is a set someone put together and had a case made. That doesn't take anything away from it, it's a nice set. I would like to know more about the calibers. A 50 caliber 1882 barrel is sort of rare. I'll ask him to measure the depth of the chambers.
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 2:19pm
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When I got onto this thread I was mentally composing my response, but then got down to what Captain Bob and Deadeye Bly said, and they had already covered about all I had to say.  I would love to own that rifle because, believe it or not, my N-SSA competitor number is 12345!  Like my esteemed colleagues, I would suggest that the original (or some subsequent) owner added a couple of barrels to his original rifle to make the shooting battery he wanted.  I've done the same thing with an 1873 and it's a keeper with the original 40-40 barrel, a neat old 64 smoothbore, and a newly made 22 LR barrel from Deadeye Bly.  That makes for good coverage of whatever I want to shoot.  It would appear that there was a thriving cottage industry back then to build fitted cases for one's takedown rifles and shotguns, so that isn't a surprising addition either.

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PS  I too would have expected the butt stock to be checkered, but who knows?  Is it just a trick of the lighting, or is there a pin in the wrist of the stock, showing up as a dark spot?  Could it be a repair??
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 9:20pm
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I asked several days ago for some chamber dimensions especially the length. I have not gotten any response so I guess he can't measure them or has no interest in doing so.
There are 3 lengths of 40 caliber chambers and several 50 caliber possibilities up to the 50/100. Bearface Dodge used a 50/100 Maynard to hunt grizzlies until one chewed him up. I think a grizzly would have to be about to chew on me before I would shoot a 50/100 in a 6 or 7 lb Maynard.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 9:24pm
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I doubt the ability of the seller ($bags) to determine calibers.
It's really a crap shoot, sometimes that grizzly gets ya.
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Reply #15 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:22am
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The biggest fly in the ointment other than not being able to determine calibers is the inability to tell you that this is actually a multi barrel set, or a Maynard with a collection of barrels. I have seen many “multi barrel sets” over the years only one was an actual multi barrel set and not a collection of barrels picked up at gunshows over the years. Given the veracity of sellers on Gunbroker I wouldn’t trust this as listed. Buyer Beware.

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Reply #16 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 11:08am
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I think it's a collection, still cool.
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Reply #17 - Jun 17th, 2017 at 8:42am
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Another observation, frame is marked 1873 on one side and 1882 on the other.  No certainty that all three barrels have 1882 headspacing, as seller has not included one single picture clearly illustrating barrel/breech gap.
  

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Reply #18 - Jun 17th, 2017 at 9:58pm
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1873 and 1882 barrels are basically the same. The difference is in the frame. The difference in 1873 and 1882 barrels is that the retractor goes all the way to the chamber on 1882 barrels and stays away about 1/16" or more on the 1873 barrels. The 1873 on the left side of the frame is not a model number but a patent date for the cocking lever that brings the hammer to half cock upon opening the action. Many 1882 models have the 1873 on the left side and that is not an anomaly.
  
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