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Martini Cadet rebarreling
Jul 7th, 2017 at 10:44pm
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Howdy,
  I have one of the Martini Cadets that someone thought it would be a good idea to rechamber to .32-20. Unfortunately it shoots patterns instead of groups😖 I believe I would like to rebarrel it into a .17 Hornet. Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on a reliable and hopefully reasonable Smith who does that on Cadets?
  
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Re: Martini Cadet rebarreling
Reply #1 - Jul 8th, 2017 at 6:31am
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Lots of them. Where are you located? Can probably recommend one that is not that far from you.

Have you considered have the barrel lined? Not sure if they make .17 liners, but generally a bit less $$ than a new barrel.
  

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Re: Martini Cadet rebarreling
Reply #2 - Jul 8th, 2017 at 8:05am
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Get a mold for the .310 cadet (the heeled one), and use that on the 32-20 case, trimmed to the length required in order to be able to chamber the cartridge, and you're in business.   And accuracy will be surprisingly good...  Only costs you the price of a mold.  CBE has a .310 cadet mold, maybe accurate molds too...  Difference is bullet diameter:   32-20 uses .311, this one will at least require .320 or more.  No wonder the 32-20 bullet rattles through the bore...
  
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Re: Martini Cadet rebarreling
Reply #3 - Jul 8th, 2017 at 10:03am
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32-20 on the left, trimmed/loaded with RCBS .310-120-RN on the right. 5 shots @ 100 yds, iron sights.

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Re: Martini Cadet rebarreling
Reply #4 - Jul 9th, 2017 at 8:09pm
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There is a liner available in 17 cal, cost to reline in that caliber would be about $450. Cost to install a GM barrel in the same caliber, about the same. A new barrel will be a little harder metal than a liner. I don't have the chamber reamer for the 17 Hornet. Also you may need to bush the firing pin. The original groove diameter on a 310 cadet can be as much as .318", that's why a 32-20 may not shoot well. Might try slugging the barrel and going from there.
  

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Reply #5 - Jul 10th, 2017 at 10:36pm
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SSShooter I am in unconstitutional CT at the moment....Soon to be Tennessee.
MartiniBelgian I actually have a .310 and a .357 Magnum Cadet. I do mold my own boolits for the .310 already. I picked up the 32-20 fairly cheap and figured I would give it a try before deciding what to do with it and it literally shoots patterns. My .310 is a one inch gun at 50 and will shoot 1.5-2" at 100 if I do my part.
  I thought 17 Hornet would be a fun little cartridge in a Cadet but I have not found any smiths who have the reamer so I may end up going with .22 Hornet.
  And thank you all for the replies!!
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 9:58am
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If you are looking at Varmint ctgs for your Cadet:
Have seen a number of 218 Bee  and 218 Mashburn Bee
Cadets for sale. This ctg, is a little shorter and will match the  original extractor- better than the Hornet.
Oh, I love my 357Mag (Klein's in late 1950s) rebored Cadet.
Shoots very well. Favorite is the 358315, 200 gr RNGC rifle
bullet.
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Re: Martini Cadet rebarreling
Reply #7 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 10:19am
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If you go the Hornet route, might as well make it a K.
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 10:28am
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Beltfed...yup I usually shoot 158gr in my .357 as they print very nice tight groups right out to 150 yards(have not shot it any further and would not consider hunting any further than that with a .357 anyway). I have seen the .218's as well as .222 rimmed and a few other unusual chamberings. I was kind of looking for something a bit different than the cartridges that have already been done in a Cadet. And I have not really played around with a .17 in ages.( I had a Kimber super America in .17 Remington a while back). Anyway that little .17 Hornet seemed like a fun little cartridge with the additional plus of actually having factory ammo fairly available(although I would handload for it in the long run).

Appreciate everyone chiming in... good to hear others opinions and suggestions! But I may be stuck on this .17 thing.... You know how it is when you get an idea in your head!
  
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Reply #9 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 10:46am
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Craigster....Your reasons for K over straight H.H?
  
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Re: Martini Cadet rebarreling
Reply #10 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 4:51pm
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Steaminator wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 10:46am:
Craigster....Your reasons for K over straight H.H?


Cases last longer, and added velocity. And, of the two rifles I've rechamebered to K, both improved in the accuracy dept.
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Re: Martini Cadet rebarreling
Reply #11 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 6:59am
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One of the most "beautiful" cartridges I have ever seen is the 17/218 Bee.  If I were to rebarrel my Cadet,it would be in this cartridge.
  
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Re: Martini Cadet rebarreling
Reply #12 - Jul 31st, 2017 at 7:14pm
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I have a guy in Greenwood who has done several Cadet barreling jobs for me.  He is good and reasonable.  His name is Aaron Bailey.  If you contact him use my name: if you can't contact him, drop me a line and I will get in touch with him.  He has done a 218 Bee, a 357 Mag and a 256 Win Mag for me, all on small Martini actions.  I can send pics if you like.  Please pm your reply.
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 16th, 2017 at 9:48pm
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Anybody know what the "AJC*" stamp on this cadet means..... Maybe you guys from"Down Under"

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Reply #14 - Aug 17th, 2017 at 10:14am
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All this talk about little bullets and high velocity, I made mine a 32 S&W. I made the barrel octagon just to be different. Will be able to shoot it as soon as I finish the wood.
  

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Re: Martini Cadet rebarreling
Reply #15 - Aug 20th, 2017 at 10:43pm
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Nice John.

I'm looking forward to hearing a little more about it. I've been thinking of a 32 S&W in a rifle as I already have a 32 Long Colt in a Marlin 1892. The 32 S&W being substantially easier to load for and capable of more performance.

Should be neat.
  
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Re: Martini Cadet rebarreling
Reply #16 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 7:40pm
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Not a cadet but a Stevens in 32 s&w long, love it to death.
Will create an addiction to little 32 cartridges quickly.
Don't need speed so much, the thwack from 100 gr bullet is pretty good.
Cheap to shoot, readily avail and accurate.

I intend to build several more small rifles in 32 cal including a 32 h&r mag for black powder use only.

I have a reamer I had ground, yet to use, to modify the 32-20 neck & throat for 8mm service. Specifically for the martini cadet rechambers done in 32-20.
Has a short throat specific to the rcbs cadet bullet with the shank opened to full diameter.
It's a hand ream proposition. On my short list to complete.
Having same issue as you and wanted to keep the mint bore I have and also the 32-20 basic framework. This was the solution I created.



  
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