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Is collecting rocks. I like agate and jasper. New find of plume agate. 


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Nice, Joe. Here's some Texas plume.
  
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Beautiful colors! 

So far I've not found anything with comparable colors here in Eastern Idaho. Have found traces, (small pieces) of bright red agate. One of these days may find the source.

Here is a 25LB chunk of plume with a nice green color. My saw is not quite big enough to cut it. Pictures are front and back. To find that much color is perty exciting.



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Great hobby!
They don't have rocks in Florida. (at least I haven't seen any)
In Connecticut, you can't put a shovel 6" into the ground without hitting one.
Just a lot of shell and sand here, amazing that grass can grow.
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Very Nice! My Wife has quite a rock collection!

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Beautiful specimens, Joe.

If you could inlet an attractive slab into a rifle's buttstock, it'd be sure to give you a rock-steady hold!
  
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Nice piece, Joe.
  
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Joe, Is that fossilized fauna or flora?
  

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Plume agate.  Mystery to me.   Undecided


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Beautiful stuff!
  

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I have no idea how this stuff forms. (crypotocrystalline).


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Interesting tube agate!
  
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Tube agate is really strange and really neat. Here's one I found earlier this summer.  Weight, two pounds. Makes a neat paper weight.


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Guys on TV are making big bucks for that stuff.
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Really? How much you think my stuff is worth?


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  How do you make marbles out of this stuff?
  

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Sphere grinding machines.


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westerner wrote on Aug 7th, 2017 at 12:11am:
I have no idea how this stuff forms. (crypotocrystalline).


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It forms from heating silica Joe. How it looks after forming depends on the amount of moisture present during a volcanic, or heating process. More water gives the more marbled effect, and little or no moisture will result in more crystalized effect, like we see in quartz crystals. The amount of pressure during this formation will have some effect on the results also.
  

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I must be worth billions! And BILLIONS!   Shocked

How do you know that, MG? I've read the same theory, and others, but wonder if it's correct. Items found in old abandoned mines have been found to be covered in silica. Splain that one. How do we explain silicified snails and wood?


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Copies of the magazine may be ordered online.
  
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Really? How much you think my stuff is worth?
Bet you got Trump beat if you include those rifles I've seen pics of.

looking online, I haven't found anything that looks much like your paperweight.
There is a mineral store here on tourist row, I'll print out your pic and ask.
Small samples of some agate are in the hundreds online, others about 50 to 70 bucks.
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Got an offer to buy the big tube agate. Told him I wouldn't know what it's worth and that it's a great paper weight. Told me he also buys botryoidal specimens.
Didn't show him this one.


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That one is a little creepy looking. Sorta reminds me of blisters on blubber- or something....
  
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Biggest piece I've ever seen. Had to bring it home. Three pounds.


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I must be worth billions! And BILLIONS!   Shocked

How do you know that, MG? I've read the same theory, and others, but wonder if it's correct. Items found in old abandoned mines have been found to be covered in silica. Splain that one. How do we explain silicified snails and wood?


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Well Joe, I'm not a spelunker, and what little I know comes from books. simply covering something with silica sand or dust wont make it into something. It takes a lot more years than we see, and pressures, heat, etc. to have the process work.
Don't fully understand it myself.
  

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Did I make it sound like they were covered with silica? Not what I meant. The items are turning into silica.

I'm skeptical. How is a snail transformed into agate? Not through volcanic heat or pressure.
I don't think anyone knows for sure.


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At a petrified wood identification workshop it was brought up that in a lab it was possible to carefully dissolve the silica and leave the cellulose cell skeletons which could then be stained and studied as any botanical specimen. The silica had just filled in and around the cell structures.
  
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Saw this one at a show last month and thought of you, Joe. A $6 tube from Tampa Bay, Florida.
  
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Saw this one at a show last month and thought of you, Joe. A $6 tube from Tampa Bay, Florida.


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Two pound chunk of jasper agate.  Took a shooting buddy out this morning where I look for rocks. Only a few miles from the house. I'd rather be shooting in a match but this will do for now.



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Reminds me of your rifle rest Joe. (LOL)
Great find and very interesting.
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I see a great Bolo Tie in that slab.


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A beautiful stone, Joe.
  
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Thanks.

We took my Jeep up to the spot.  While explaining to Bob what to look for, looked down and spotted this nice piece of petrified wood at my feet.  Thought it was brown agate till I got it home and took a close look. Might have to look again at some other similar pieces.  Loving Idaho I can tell you that!


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Frankly, Joe, I see a beautiful belt buckle centerpiece there!
  
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Idaho is the greatest for sure Joe.  With all the free material free for the picking, how about becoming the matches prizemaster?  Cheesy
  

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Rocks are free most everywhere, Bob. Idaho has some nice ones.  Like this sixty pound chunk of green jasper mixed with brown agate.  Now, a saw.


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That should be a beauty! We had lots of gold and silver too, Joe.  You could be standing on a gold mine and not even know it  Grin
  

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I could stand some gold.  Now what did I do with those Xray glasses?

About twenty five miles West of here there is a gold mine. They cut the mountain in half. 




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Blue plume agate cabochon.



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Dime size cabs.



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What a great hobby!
All we have in Florida is shell.
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Some construction close by uncovered some petrified wood here are some of the small pieces that hadn't been carried off yet and a slab.
  
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Anybody up for trying to make a stock set out of that?  Should be pretty stable material.

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Joe could.  He can do anything and everything.  Be a good project for a long high desert winter  Cheesy
  

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Joe could.  He can do anything and everything.  Be a good project for a long high desert winter  Cheesy



Until this weekend, I couldn't dop a cab for shxx.  What a struggle till I came up with this nifty idea. 30-30 shell with a dowel in it attached with super glue. When the cab is done heat the case and the cab falls off.


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Some construction close by uncovered some petrified wood here are some of the small pieces that hadn't been carried off yet and a slab.


That's some serious big pieces of petwood.  Shocked


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Joe, a rancher up the hill from there uncovered a 60 footer when he was building his barn so he just extended the shed roof over it. Down from the ranch was a 57 footer that they tried to get out in one piece but weren't successful.
  
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So if a whole petrified tree is dug up, you're standing on a petrified forest.  Undecided

Someplace there is a petrified forest where the trees are still standing. Think I was there once but can't remember where it was. Forest was covered with ash so trees are still standing. Looks like they are standind in holes.



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Goggle them Joe, they are all over the place.  WA, AZ, FL.........  Do you have a petrified chainsaw to log them?  Roll Eyes

My Bro in Law used to work in the coal mine at the Centralia Steam Plant.  He told me there was a layer about 2000 years old with redwood logs as fresh as if they were cut yesterday.  I suppose they would have petrified in a few more million years.
  

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Remember the guy who was dredging up ancient logs off the bottom of Lake Washington?  Fabulous timber. State shut him down.


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Yeah, why did they shut him down?
  

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I don't remember that part of the saga. I figure they either couldn't tax him or they created an environmental issue.  The state doesn't like to see anyone get ahead without the state getting a cut of the action. Same old story. OR, maybe the state shut him down and started dredging and selling the timber. Like they do with timber now. You know, like the Mafia.



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Joe, the north end of Yellowstone has a standing tree with a road to it. Probably many more in the ash. Florissant Fossil Beds National Monument west of Colorado Springs has 10 to 12 foot high Sequoia stumps in situ. Ash again. Probably anywhere that has deep ash deposits can have standing petrified as the ash provides a good source of silica. The logs around here were washed down tropical rivers onto sandbars about 55 million years ago and buried.
  
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Growing up I got moved around the country a lot & gathered a nice rock & arrowhead collection. It unfortunately disappeared along with my little fly tying equipment during one of the moves. I still chased rocks & became a geologist. In one of my muzzle loaders a stock maker put ground up turquoise in a clear matrix that looks pretty cool imbedded in part of the stock along with some inlays.
  
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I've been to the standing tree at Jellystone park.  Wished I could remember where that standing forest was. We discovered petwood in an area off the radar this summer. Will go back next summer. A piece I found. Petrified bark and all. If it were laying in a pile of firewood you wouldn't know its now a mineral.



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Arco tube agate cab. Arco brown agate cab.


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Idaho Cabochons.




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A very nice Buttite specimen.


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Looks like Kardashianite;-)
  
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oneatatime wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 1:07am:
Looks like Kardashianite;-)


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I don't and have not watched TV for many years. I have heard of Kardashians. Somehow related to OJ Simpson, but don't know what it has to do with this fine Posteriorite specimen.

Check out this tube agate we found today.




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Patty also found this big five pound chunk of tube agate jumble.



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When you take my friend Bob B out "rock hunting" why is it all he finds is rocks???

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I took him up to a favorite place. We get out of the car and I walk Bob over to a good spot and I explain how you look down and.......... I bend over and pick up a gorgeous piece of petrified wood.  I been doing it so long I just see the right stuff.  Our friend Bob needs a lot of practice.   Wink



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Looks like Kardashianite;-)

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Joe, very nice, I'm not a religious man but Mother Nature truly is the greatest of all artist.
  
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I must be another old fogy who ain't with it.  That piece made me think of Rubens.
  

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Mother nature art? I think so. Unexpected for sure. I love both man made art and natural art. Man paints natures art and his own inventions.




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uscra112 wrote on Oct 22nd, 2017 at 9:40pm:
I must be another old fogy who ain't with it.  That piece made me think of Rubens. 


Same "concept", different time frame.
  
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Those rocks are absolutely gorgeous, Joe.  My Dad was a jeweler and even though he worked primarily in precious stones, occasionally a semi-precious stone would make it's way into a piece.  I always loved the agates.
  
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I've always preferred semi precious stones. My grand parents were rock hounds. Remember the first stone I ever saw, an Apache Tear sitting on grandmas dresser drawers.

Here's a tube agate cab I just finished. Found fifteen miles from my home. I find making a cabochon is easier than avoiding a defect.  The camera catches everything, including the camera.  Sad


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Today I found this twenty pound tube agate.  Couldn't just leave it laying there.




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Nice day yesterday so went up the hill a bit to look for wood. Wife informed me I was only to bring back something special or any snakeskin (local term for what you'll see). Walked down a small draw and only saw 2 pieces and only allowed myself this one. The end view kind of shows the structure that forms the "snakeskin".
  
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Nice. Assuming it made the cut. Petwood?

I'm working on this piece now. Found a small area with this sort of agate in it. Very small area. Maybe an acre. Very clear agate with the black dendrites and stuff. Cut the big chunk into slabs on the trim saw this morning. Going to make some killer cabs.


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We looked all over the banks of the Yellowstone river looking for agate like in the last picture this summer. Not much luck.  Yeah, still easier than scoring 250s.    Grin  Found the stuff above twenty miles from home.



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Enjoying the updates. I wouldn't be able to spot any of these things if they jumped up and bit me. My wife has a few samples along with some amber that are finished thin enough to make interesting Christmas tree ornaments, probably no more than an inch and a quarter across. Some are polished edged, some natural edged. I haven't seen them for a few seasons, and I know we've broken a couple, but they should be packed away somewhere. Some of your earlier pictures looked a good bit like mammoth tooth.
  
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The twenty pound tube agate was just a small dime size piece of agate glistening in the sun.  I picked at it with my rock hammer and it just kept getting bigger and bigger. Was looking for brown agate, green opal and jasper.

The agate with the black spots was a piece laying out in the open next to my vehicle. A fist sized piece of milk agate with a one inch cap of clearer agate on one end. Picked it up and noticed the black spots. When I got home I cut the milk agate off wondering what it would look like where the two joined. I like it! Lots of small agate chips with black spots in that small area. 



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Joe, Do you cut those with a water cooled diamond saw?
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Oil cooled.  Mineral oil and a diamond wheel. Lapidary slab saw.


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Those look kool!  I should have picked up some rocks before I left Idaho.  I am experienced.  Dad had us picking rock in the fields most Saturdays in the winter  Sad
  

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You were just East of Homedale and the Owyhee area. One of the most famous collecting areas in the US.  Farming and milking cows is important too. You get to eat.



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I had no idea we were in famous rock collecting country.  Hope I didn't blow up any good stuff.  I was chief dynamite man one Saturday when I was 15 or 16.











  

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Nice black plume, Joe. You've got a lot more agate around you. I just sliced a chunk of Balmorhea (TX) Blue and got this. The second pic is what you might have been looking for on the Yellowstone. This 18 pound piece came out a long time ago.
  
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Next time I hound the Yellowstone will have a boat of some kind for access to the banks.


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Westerner,

Mighty nice looking stuff you've got there.  Unless you're goal is to build a personal gravel pit of only the prettiest shiny rocks, I'll hazard a guess that you occasionally sell some of those beauties, but since it is not acceptable to list such items here on the forum, would you care to steer those of us who may be interested to a place where we can learn more?

My wife has a serious affliction for teardrop pendants made of such materials, but as with all things considered to be pretty, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and desire to posess it is often limited by the thickness of the wallet.  That time of the year is again coming when I will (in usual last minute desperation, although with good intentions to avoid same) be looking for something truly unique for her.  So, I would like to know more, if you please. 


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Nope. I'm retired. Very hard to get me to do anything. You can buy them earrings lots of places.


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What do you do with all the pretty rocks?  Do you have the prettiest gravel driveway in Arco?  Cheesy
  

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We run on a catch and release basis. We bring um home for a while and then return them on the next rock hounding trip. The ones we really love we keep and cut them into pieces and grind out cabochons and polish them. Sometimes but not often we'll make jewelry out of them.  I made a bolo tie this summer, Patty made a necklace out of blue banded agate. 

We are considering casting our own settings. Patty just bought a house so we'll be busy with that for a while. I do have quite a bit of rough here, since I love um all.  Kicking around the idea of making a display case for the twenty pound tube agate.  I think it would make a neat show piece at rock and mineral shows.

It's just a hobby to keep an old duffer going. Hiking through the mountains and all the activity associated with that is good for ones health and spirit. We found some really nice stuff this summer. We took the time to get out and looked everywhere. Some of our best finds were way off the rockhound radar. One camping trip lasted twelve days. We had a camp fire every evening, cooled our feet in creeks and rivers and soaked our tired feet in hot springs along the Payette river. Traveled all over the dadburned country doing it. I stood in Fairview North Dakota and spit in Montana. We have trips planned for next summer.


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Worst, dustiest part of the trail in the hottest time of the year.  115 is common.  The dust is as fine as sifted flour. It hangs in the air all month long.  Walking bare foot, it sears the soles of your feet.  As you step down into it,  it squirts up between your toes. Eventually your foot finds the soothing cool below. There you stand, stuck.  The dilemma is to stay out in the hot sun or take another step that will burn the sole of your foot and squirt more dust into the air. Cheesy  You can't make this stuff up.  It is really like that.  Walking barefoot in fresh cow pies is much preferred  Shocked
  

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Sounds like Dickshooter. I've not been there yet. One of these days. I'll be sure to wear shoes and carry water.




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White plume agate cabs.



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