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Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:37am
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Went to our annual long range fun shoot last week, and my friend who puts it on asked me to set up my display of Ballard schuetzen rifles. My camera quit, so these pics are compliments of my friend.

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Reply #1 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:46am
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Very very nice Vall which one were you shooting in the fun shoot.

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J Louis wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:46am:
Very very nice Vall which one were you shooting in the fun shoot.

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The bottom pictured Schoyen is the one you reworked the Saeco mold for, and took it out for a spin. But I took about half of them off the display and shot them during the week long shoot, plus a few other non schuetzen rifles I had along.
Was extremely infatuated with my Ballard Pacific in .40-85. It was a recent purchase and was consistently hitting the 650 yd. dinger while fire forming case from 9.3x74R, using 20.0 grs. of 2400 and a 345 grain bullet. And they say the light bullets wont hold well very far out!
  

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Vall, 

When do you have your display in Portland?   I would like to come see it.

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Vall: I'm glad for you that you liked the Pacific in 40-85.
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bpjack wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
Vall, 

When do you have your display in Portland?   I would like to come see it.

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We will have our big 2 day show the 19th-20th of August at the Columbia Conference Center 8439 NE Columbia, Portland.
If you might plan to come, send me a PM and I'll give you my phone number so you can call when you get there!
  

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Vall: I'm glad for you that you liked the Pacific in 40-85.
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My first Ballard in .40-85, and I'm hooked Don! I was very pleased with the way it shot, and how well the light 345 gr. RCBS molded bullet worked at long distance! It will see a lot of shooting in the future!
  

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Vall,

I penciled it in on my calendar.  I will let you know for sure as it gets closer. 

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Vall how much differance was there between it and the 32-40 Schoyen in overall dinger hits. Was the Schoyen shot breech seated and the 40-85 shot fixed.

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Vall, 

When do you have your display in Portland?   I would like to come see it.

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When do you have your display in Scottsdale  Smiley I wouldn't miss it for the world!
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J Louis wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:03pm:
Vall how much differance was there between it and the 32-40 Schoyen in overall dinger hits. Was the Schoyen shot breech seated and the 40-85 shot fixed.

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The Schoyen was fired breech seated, and the .40-85 fixed. The big .40 with 345 gr. bullets has a real advantage when I go over 400 yds. The 650 yd. dinger was an easy shot for the .40-85, but the .32-40 Schoyen is affected by wind more. At 400 yds. I didn't have a miss with the .40-85, and very few at 650 yds. either. But the .32-40 held it's own and gave me plenty of grins too!
If it wasn't for my good friend spotting, and loaning me the front sight off his Rolling Block, I wouldn't have even fired the Ballard Pacific! The original Ballard combination globe front had such a tiny post I couldn't see it when I held off for wind. Steve took the sight he built off his gun and we installed it on my Pacific. It has a MVA bubble level, but is an open post of .040" width. The sight picture was amazing, and it seemed to be laser guided on the Pacific! Hopefully I can beg him to make one for me, so I can shoot the Pacific farther! There's a 990 yd. dinger out there, but I ran out of loaded ammo before I got to it!
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When do you have your display in Scottsdale  Smiley I wouldn't miss it for the world!
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Thanks Scott! Traveling over a day's drive brings up some security issues. Tough to stay anywhere overnight with the guns sitting in my old Suburban. So I'd have to sleep in it too, or take some security risks in a motel parking lot!
  

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Reply #12 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:49pm
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Thank you for the clairification Vall! 
I hope John Yount also faired well a nicer fellow would be hard pressed to find and I know he was extremely   looking forward to the fun match but I am also not sure what he took along to shoot.
Hopefully John will chime in and share his experiances outside of that long drive from Ca. and well worth it to be with his friends. As well as to have fun at that fun match of the year and to be able to hang out and visit with all of his close friends.

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Reply #13 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:58am
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Well boys and girls  --  Here is a picture of the Farringer Front Sight for your dinning and dancing pleasure...

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And with it's related sunshade...


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Thanks Wind! Love that sight, and how well it worked in every light condition!
Wind is our gracious host for this annual shoot, and we all appreciate him opening his home and property for us each year!!

John Yount brought his CPA in a 3 barrel set of .40-70SS, .30-30, and I believe .32-40? All of the barrels are Douglas and JY was extremely pleased with how all three performed! I believe he was using the .40-70SS barrel with great results on the 990 dinger!
  

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Reply #15 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 10:19am
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Vall, thanks for sharing, and very very nice display of your Ballard smoke poles. Envious is all I can say. Smiley
  
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Vall, thanks for sharing, and very very nice display of your Ballard smoke poles. Envious is all I can say. Smiley


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Wow!
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If they could only talk, the stories they could tell of heroes, champions, and clouds of black powder.
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Thanks Aaron! Fortunately some of them can "talk"! I've been lucky enough to document provenance on a few of my old Ballard rifles from the first owners, or very close to first owners. As neat as old singles are, it's even more special to me when I can document a particular gun's history!
  

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Vall, that display is fantastic! The fact that you are shooting them makes it even better, I am jealous!

Wind, I like the simplicity of the front sight,  if I put a sunshade like that on my daughter-in law's rifle, she'd join us for every match, what a novel idea!  She loves the frills.  Grin
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Vall, that display is fantastic! The fact that you are shooting them makes it even better, I am jealous!

Wind, I like the simplicity of the front sight,  if I put a sunshade like that on my daughter-in law's rifle, she'd join us for every match, what a novel idea!  She loves the frills.  Grin
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Thanks Greg! I fell in love with Steve's sight before he loaned it to me to get my Pacific shooting. But afterwards I was in lust with it! Never had an open blade that worked so well, and the bubble level really helps out when I stretched it out past 400 yds.!
  

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Poor Vall, He doesn't have any new guns, just those old ones!


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Poor Vall, He doesn't have any new guns, just those old ones!


Super nice display, Well done!



Not quite true! 3rd one down in the first picture is my Ballard built in Cody, Wy. and done in the Schoyen pattern, with .22LR Badger barrel. It was built in 2004! Smiley
Always said I'd never own a modern Ballard clone, but it was too pretty to pass up.

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Your Ballard 22 looks to be a twin of the 22LR Cody Ballard Schoyen I have. Same butt stock, lever & filler even same Neal Rice palm rest. My rifle has a 30" round Douglas barrel with match chamber. I wonder how many of those they made? I bought mine used in near new condition.
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That is one remarkable pile of Ballard schuetzen rifles. Thank you for posting.

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Your Ballard 22 looks to be a twin of the 22LR Cody Ballard Schoyen I have. Same butt stock, lever & filler even same Neal Rice palm rest. My rifle has a 30" round Douglas barrel with match chamber. I wonder how many of those they made? I bought mine used in near new condition.
It's an excellent OH rifle for me.


I also purchased mine used. A late friend was a huge fan of the Ballards built in Cody, Wy. and he ordered it. I'd have to check the length for sure, but I believe mine is also a 30" barrel. Barrel weight is either #3.5 or #4 weight, and with the tiny hole it's very heavy offhand.
It came with MVA mid range Soule, and Baldwin globe front sights. Also set up for scope bases. Has a Super Targetspot 20x, but crosshairs are so thin I can't see them. Need to find someone to swap the crosshairs out to something I can see.
  

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That is one remarkable pile of Ballard schuetzen rifles. Thank you for posting.

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Fantastic to see!  I also imagine their different owners through the generations, enjoying them as history marches on....
  
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Fantastic to see!  I also imagine their different owners through the generations, enjoying them as history marches on....


Yes, and it's sad that all of them were not documented, or somehow their chain of ownership retained.
I was at a friend's memorial get together last night and was approached by his daughters, who inherited his 3 rifles. They wanted to know what I could tell them about his guns, as they had a video that a friend had secretly recorded of him telling him about his Winchester 1873, and how it had been handed down in the family and always said to be so inaccurate "it couldn't hit the barn if you stood inside the barn".
In the video he mentioned he'd given it to me to fix and it was finally shooting fantastic groups after numerous generations.
Back when his father was alive I spoke with Steve and his dad about the three guns, and wrote down all the info I was told on two guns they had; the 1873, and a .40 caliber muzzleloading target rifle with it's shooting kit! Nobody found the documentation after his death, so I'm going to write it down again, as I remember it. I am also going to research the California gun maker who built the ML target rifle again, as I don't recall his details other than he worked in the mid 1840-1850 time frame.
They have relatives wanting to take the guns because they feel they should be with guys and not women. I convinced them that gun ownership is not predicated by a person's sex. The guns need to stay with his girls, and not a cousin. And they need to ensure the family history is retained since both were originally purchased new at one point.
  

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Hopefully I can beg him to make one for me, so I can shoot the Pacific farther! There's a 990 yd. dinger out there, but I ran out of loaded ammo before I got to it!

If you find you want a bit more weight, any number of folks are shooting the BACo 400gr Money bullet to 1000yd with their 40-65, 40-70 and 40-82 with good results.
  

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Oops! Sorry I'm late to this thread. Yes, Vall's display of beautiful old Ballards was fantastic. 2nd best part of it was watching Vall ring the dingers way out yonder with various ones of the rifles. The best part is how well Vall has gathered information about the rifles and previous owners and helped the rifles tell their histories.

Poor Vall didn't get as much trigger time as some of us, as it seems someone was always pestering him to play docent for his museum pieces, though I don't get the feeling that sharing the histories of his wonderful old rifles was something that Vall tired of. It's hard to pick out one of the rifles he displayed as the most interesting, but for me it had to be his Pope change-barrel rifle with 3 barrels set up on an ingenious system of Pope's devising.

The Gatherin at Wind's every year is a true treat, with many fine folks who appreciate old guns and shooting them at steel plates. I brought my CPA Stevens with barrels in 30-30, 32-40, and 40-72 Winchester, my Ruger No. 1 in 38-55, my 1893 Marlin in 38-55, and my Stevens Favorite 22 LR.

As Vall said, the larger bores are easier to get on the 650 and 990 yard plates, not only for wind-bucking properties, but also because the misses throw up a bigger cloud of dust.  When you're trying to adjust your long-range tang sights for the distant targets, if you don't know where you're missing, you can't make the adjustments to bring the rifle onto target. I threw many a 32-40 and 30-30 bullet onto the hillside toward the distant targets with nary a dust cloud spotted to indicate where they hit. In frustration, I put the small bores aside and went after the 650 and 990 with my 38-55 and my 40-72. I had to use Kentucky windage with the Ruger, as it is currently scoped, and I got close to the 990 by holding on branches of a tree above and windward of the plate.

With visible dust clouds to mark my misses, an adjustable Montana Vintage Arms tang sight, and Wind's practiced spotting and coaching, after 3 years of trying, I finally joined the 990 club with my CPA and 40-72 barrel. Load was a 400 grain Snover over 22 grains of IMR 4198, fixed cartridges.
  
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marlinguy wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:26pm:
Hopefully I can beg him to make one for me, so I can shoot the Pacific farther! There's a 990 yd. dinger out there, but I ran out of loaded ammo before I got to it!

If you find you want a bit more weight, any number of folks are shooting the BACo 400gr Money bullet to 1000yd with their 40-65, 40-70 and 40-82 with good results.


I have both the Money bullet mold, and the Snover, but haven't had good luck with either at long range. I believe the slow twist of older guns aren't great for those heavier bullets, and the lighter bullets seem to do better in these slow twist barrels.
One of my friends owns two Rollings Blocks with newer GM barrels in 14.5" and 16" twist rates, and had poor results with those heavier bullets in them also. He built the 14.5" twist to handle heavier bullets, and they still began to tumble at about 600 yds. He finally dropped down to a 335 gr. in his .40-65 for both guns, and they are both staying stable out to longer distances now.
  

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Oops! Sorry I'm late to this thread. Yes, Vall's display of beautiful old Ballards was fantastic. 2nd best part of it was watching Vall ring the dingers way out yonder with various ones of the rifles. The best part is how well Vall has gathered information about the rifles and previous owners and helped the rifles tell their histories.

Poor Vall didn't get as much trigger time as some of us, as it seems someone was always pestering him to play docent for his museum pieces, though I don't get the feeling that sharing the histories of his wonderful old rifles was something that Vall tired of. It's hard to pick out one of the rifles he displayed as the most interesting, but for me it had to be his Pope change-barrel rifle with 3 barrels set up on an ingenious system of Pope's.

The Gatherin at Wind's every year is a true treat, with many fine folks who appreciate old guns and shooting them at steel plates.

As Vall said, the larger bores are easier to get on the 650 and 990 yard plates, not only for wind-bucking properties, but also because the misses throw up a bigger cloud of dust.  When you're trying to adjust your long-range tang sights for the distant targets, if you don't know where you're missing, you can't make the adjustments to bring the rifle onto target. I threw many a 32-40 and 30-30 bullet onto the hillside toward the distant targets with nary a dust cloud spotted to indicate where they hit.

With visible dust clouds to mark my misses, an adjustable Montana Vintage Arms tang sight, and Wind's trusty spotting and coaching, after 3 years of trying, I finally joined the 990 club with my CPA and 40-72 barrel. Load was a 400 grain Snover over 22 grains of IMR 4198, fixed cartridges.


Yes, I brought a lot of ammo back home, but enjoyed going over the display rifles with the fellas who had not been exposed to schuetzen rifles.
I too found my smaller calibers from .32-40 down to be frustrating to locate misses at longer distances. But at farther distances I can almost spot for myself with a .40, as the dust is easy to see!
  

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Reply #34 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 10:25pm
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Beautiful collection of Ballards very well displayed. Been a Stevens collector for many years but looking at that display sort of makes me think I should look for a Ballard.
  
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Beautiful collection of Ballards very well displayed. Been a Stevens collector for many years but looking at that display sort of makes me think I should look for a Ballard.


Thanks! Everyone should own a Ballard at some point in life! I wanted one just to complete my pre WWI Marlin repeater collection. Had over 100 early Marlin lever actions then, and after buying my first Ballard I was hooked. Began selling all my repeaters and reinvesting in more Ballards. I own two Marlin 1881's now, and all the rest went away over time. I miss some, but the Ballards fill any empty spots! Smiley
  

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Vall,

I will be at the show tomorrow late morning.  I have your number if I need it. Can't wait to see your display. Do I need to bring my own drool towel?

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Great meeting you today Jack!! Wish we could have visited longer! Thanks for coming down for the show!
  

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Very impressive show.  Your rifles are awesome.  Nice to see so many different types of old firearms in one place.

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Thanks Jack!

Picked up a .22LR benchrest rifle today. 1885 Winchester with #5 weight Stevens-Pope .22 barrel. Heavy little bugger, but at a giveaway price I couldn't resist! I tossed my Belding & Mull target scope on it.


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Nice find Val.
  

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kensmachine wrote on Aug 21st, 2017 at 2:02am:
You told me you were not going to buy that you dirt bag ken


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Had a moment of weakness, and made him a lowball offer. To my surprise he took it! Less than he mentioned he'd take the day you asked him.
  

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MG, do you own every model of Ballard? Marlin Ballards?


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            Joe.


No Joe, I have several holes in my Marlin collection. Especially in the very expensive models! I have a #7, but not the 7A-1 or 7A-1 Extra. No 4 1/2 Mid Range, or #10 Schuetzen Jr.
  

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Hey Vall, I saw your posting of this rifle over on Castboolits so I figured you'd be more complete over here.  Wow... what a neat find.  Be sure and post some results when you take it out for a spin at the range.  I'm betting it's going to shoot as well as it looks.  Over on CB I suggested adding  small Swiss buttplate, but I guess I'd have to wring it out on the bench first, but it screams for some offhand time as well.  You know what old Harry Pope said about the bench proving the gun and offhand proving the shooter.

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Hey Vall, I saw your posting of this rifle over on Castboolits so I figured you'd be more complete over here.  Wow... what a neat find.  Be sure and post some results when you take it out for a spin at the range.  I'm betting it's going to shoot as well as it looks.  Over on CB I suggested adding  small Swiss buttplate, but I guess I'd have to wring it out on the bench first, but it screams for some offhand time as well.  You know what old Harry Pope said about the bench proving the gun and offhand proving the shooter.

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Thanks Charlie! OH has always been a challenge for me, and much more so as barrel weight increases! I love schuetzen rifles over all else, but presently have several really great heavy barrel schuetzen .22's, so I believe this one will stay in bench rest style.
  

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Nice find Vall Smiley I look forward to a range report!
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No Joe, I have several holes in my Marlin collection. Especially in the very expensive models! I have a #7, but not the 7A-1 or 7A-1 Extra. No 4 1/2 Mid Range, or #10 Schuetzen Jr.


No doubt you'll accomplish the task one day. 


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No doubt you'll accomplish the task one day. 


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Hope I live long enough to Joe! And have enough money when they show up!
  

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Have the stocks off the gun doing some minor repairs. Also trying to gently remove the light rust in spots on the barrel, but it will never all come off. Only hope to make it better.
While working on the barrel, I removed the scope bases, and saw something that looked like writing under the rear base, on the barrel. I got my magnifier and I see, "Long Rifle" and below that, "H. Cartwright".
No idea if that's the owner, or gunsmith who fitted the Pope barrel, and chambered it? Guessing it is a gunsmith, or gunsmith/owner. Very common name, and with just an "H." I have no idea who it might be. Another challenge to figure out.
  

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It's obvious if you just think about it. It is a movie prop that was for the character of Hoss Cartwright in the old series "Bonanza". Wink
  
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It's obvious if you just think about it. It is a movie prop that was for the character of Hoss Cartwright in the old series "Bonanza". Wink


Oh baby! The gun just skyrocketed in value!!! I'm going with it until I hear a better story of provenance!
  

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Vall, "Hoss" in his other form (Dan Blocker) was also a car guy like you.  I remember him running a sports racer of some sort - mid engine Chevy powered, as I recall.
  
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Vall, "Hoss" in his other form (Dan Blocker) was also a car guy like you.  I remember him running a sports racer of some sort - mid engine Chevy powered, as I recall.


I remember that too Terry! I hear you did well at Pebble Beach! Old time pre 1964 drags at Toutle, Wa. this Sunday! Hauling my old '37 Austin sedan up to make some passes.
  

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If my memory still works Dan Blocker had a race team named Vinegaroon (Judge Roy Bean) in the Can Am series in the mid 60's. 
  
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Well I think it's done, other than allowing a few weeks to totally dry before waxing the stocks. The forearm came out better than I thought, and I found a replacement for my beloved Tapaderas N35 Win. red (ran out, and it seems they're out of business). Went to my local Woodcrafters and the guy there directed me towards "Transtint Bight Red" dye. It did a great job of duplicating the old Win. color from the 1800's! I used N35 on the buttstock, and the Transtint on the forearm, and got a good match.

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And even more surprising was the deep cleaning I did on the barrel! I scraped the rust spots with a penny, and then went over them with 4/0 steel wool and 50-50 mix of acetone-ATF. Took all the loose stuff off the barrel, but left the patches of lightly pitted metal. I then took a very small 1/2"x1" long wood block, and wrapped it with 240 grit emery paper. I worked the pits out, and then used Oxpho Blue to touch up the bare spots. The barrel looks very nice, and no sign of the bad spots or repairs showing!
Done for now, and probably hit the range next week to see how it shoots!
  

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