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Aug 14th, 2017 at 6:31pm
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Back in the good old days (when rifles were cheaper) I bought a Rem.Hep. B Match.  The wood and DST action were nice but the barrel was rust freckled and the bore was only fair.  Fortunately, when I put on a heavy 40-50 S.St. to shoot in ASSRA Buffalo Matches, I kept the original barrel. I am relining the barrel back to 38-55. Now the opinion area: do I polish and rust blue the barrel or do I leave the outside alone.       Thanks,   Dave
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 7:17pm
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Double D wrote on Aug 14th, 2017 at 6:31pm:
Back in the good old days (when rifles were cheaper) I bought a Rem.Hep. B Match.  The wood and DST action were nice but the barrel was rust freckled and the bore was only fair.  Fortunately, when I put on a heavy 40-50 S.St. to shoot in ASSRA Buffalo Matches, I kept the original barrel. I am relining the barrel back to 38-55. Now the opinion area: do I polish and rust blue the barrel or do I leave the outside alone.       Thanks,   Dave


Dave  How does the whole gun look?????   does the wood kinda blend in with the overall look of the Gun????

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Reply #2 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 8:01pm
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Ol_Deuce wrote on Aug 14th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
Dave  How does the whole gun look?????   does the wood kinda blend in with the overall look of the Gun????

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Exactly; if the receiver & wood are nice enough that there wouldn't be a glaring contrast between them and the brl, I'd do it, but then also use steel wool on the reblued brl to minimize its "newness."
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 8:21pm
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If you were to go that route I personaly think rust bluing would be the wiser choice as well.

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Reply #4 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 8:46pm
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The wood, prong buttplate, and action look better than the barrel and I will definitely rust blue if I blue it. The steel wool afterwards is a good idea.
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 15th, 2017 at 10:39am
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You couldn't do anything but rust blue on a relined barrel anyway. Any hot blue process would release the liner and ruin it.
But I agree that bluing it would be my choice once it's relined. It might as well look good after it gets a good bore!
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 15th, 2017 at 1:21pm
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Do whatcha wanna do.  It's already a shooter, not a collector's item.  Rust bluing on a relined barrel to match the wood finish better will add value to a shooter.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:47pm
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Vall- I was thinking about drilling for the liner , rust bluing, and then putting in the liner, but you are right, if I install the liner before I blue then I can crown and chamber while it is still in the white and then repolish if necessary.                                                     Bent Ramrod- Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.  I appreciate the ideas and opinions.  I guess that is why we have forums.      Dave.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 15th, 2017 at 3:07pm
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What does a fair bore mean? If it were me, I'd think long and hard before taking steel wool to an antique rifle finish. If the rest of the rifle is untouched, I'd try a decent cleaning bore and see how the original shoots. If it shoots okay, then I'd save it and line something else or get a different barrel to shoot. Sorry about drifting in a different direction.
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 15th, 2017 at 10:29pm
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Craig, I think that's excellent advice, if the bore is shootable. I sold a Rolling Block to a friend and told him it would need relining, as the bore looked bad. Before I sent it to him I decided to give it my best shot at deep cleaning it, and attempted to remove any lead in the bore. The result was a pretty nice bore after removing shards of lead with a tight "leadaway" patch.
When he got the gun he sent me a message, and asked why I thought it needed a reline? He never relined it.
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 15th, 2017 at 10:45pm
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I had a 45-70 Numrich barrel looked like a railroad bed inside but shot very well.
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 16th, 2017 at 9:52am
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Vall- I believe it is too rough but I'll give it a try.  Let you know. Dave
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 16th, 2017 at 3:08pm
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I'm perfectly fine with what ever choices someone makes for their own stuff. I keep thinking back to your original description, a Match B with nice wood, dst action and freckling on the barrel. If the bore is a disaster, then oh well. But, for me, if the bore cleaned up some and it shot mediocre fourish inch groups at a hundred yards, I'd save it. It may be better. Maybe, the 40 barrel could be lined instead. Hopefully, the original forearm is still available and the only extra step or expense would be to machine the barrel down to the original contour.

Only thoughts DD, no argument here. I'm no collector purist, just coming from the point of view that my eye doesn't see improvement if a barrel has changes and the rest of the rifle is a decent hundred years old. Here's hoping it works out just right for how you want it to.
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 16th, 2017 at 4:17pm
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It's all opinion and everybody is entitled to their own. I avoid most re-blues. So does the general market if you want to re-sell.

In a weak moment I bought a FN 16 G Hammer Shotgun about 1911 vintage that had been "Restored" with a bright blue re-blue.  Then bought a proper American Hammer 16 to replace it.  That dog sat for sale for a long time before a hunter that likes FN Auto Shotguns bought it from me for 75 % of what I paid. Real nice gun too, except for the re-blue job.

Give you another example, I have a S&W M 1905 Target in very good condition on sale at a on line consignment dealer. It was factory re-blued, Serial number has the * beside it which most S&W collectors consider factory reblue markings. He has it listed for half the price of the same gun also listed on his web site, not in Target configuration, fixed sights,  and my re-blue still has not sold. Should say I bought it 50 % of non re-blue value and it's listed for a bit more than I have in the gun.

Offends your eye ? wear dark glasses when you shoot, don't spend money to loose money re-bluing

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Reply #14 - Aug 17th, 2017 at 8:40am
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I'd ruble, but with a nice rust blue. Don't take it to some local guy and let them hot dip it. Take your time and find someone who can do a job that belongs on the gun.

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