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Stevens Tip Up Question
Aug 19th, 2017 at 9:20pm
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I am looking at a Stevens Tip Up Ladies Model. The barrel has no makings on it. No Stevens namd and address and no serial #. It is half octagon half round which is correct. There is no dovetail for a rear sight. Barrel is drilled and tapped for a scope. The front globe sight and rear tang sight are not Stevens and I haven't been able to match them with anything in my reference books but they look period correct. Is this possibly a Stevens factory barrel or is it one somone has made? Locks up tight and bore is pristine. Muzzle end is counterbored slightly. I have never seen a Stevens unmarked barrel but then I sure haven't seen it all. I would think someone has a Ladies Model for reference?
  
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Re: Stevens Tip Up Question
Reply #1 - Aug 20th, 2017 at 9:37am
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If there are no Stevens markings at all, I think it has to be considered a re-barrel job, and priced accordingly, even if there's reason to suspect it's actually a very rare unmarked factory brl.; a cloud of doubt will always hang over it.
  
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Re: Stevens Tip Up Question
Reply #2 - Aug 20th, 2017 at 9:57am
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I have a Ladies Model Tip-Up in good mechanical condition.  It has the J. Stevens brand, city and patent marking on the 10:00-12:00 barrel flat, and the serial number low down on the level with the extractor on the long 9:00 flat.  It matches the tiny serial number on the lower tang past the trigger guard extension.  For some reason, there is a punch mark above the barrel serial number and three in a line below it.

The sight dovetails are standard barrel sight dovetails, although the rear sight is a replacement.

I haven't taken this rifle apart, but I did do a complete rebuild on a Stevens Off-Hand Pistol of the same design.  The serial number on barrel and frame of that pistol was also on the spring loaded locking block.  I found out why when I had to make a replacement to tighten up the gun--there's a lot of hand fitting there and it's unlikely that another locking block would drop in and lock the breech up adequately.

Check your locking block for a frame-matched serial number and, if there, see if the groove in the lower part of the barrel has been machined or filed to fit.

Without at least the serial number, I would have a hard time believing your barrel is a factory job that the workmen "just forgot" to mark.  On the other hand, making and fitting an aftermarket barrel as a "onesie" in someone's basement shop would be an enormous amount of effort and dedication.  Not like rebarreling a 44 or 44-1/2, for sure.
  
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Re: Stevens Tip Up Question
Reply #3 - Aug 20th, 2017 at 2:59pm
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I am pretty sure it is not a factory barrel. Just wanted some confirmation before I return it. The extractor is also much narrorwer than my other two Tip Ups. The barrel seems to be fairly old. Not a recently made. Who ever did it did an excellent job. Nice work. I can return it so no problem. Thanks for the input.
  
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Re: Stevens Tip Up Question
Reply #4 - Aug 21st, 2017 at 10:59pm
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The seller made me a fair price adjusment based on the barrel not being factory so I am keeping it. Let you know how it shoots when I get time to play with it. While modified guns like this may not be worth as much as a collectable, I always find guns with period modifications interesting both from a historicial prespective plus they often are excellent shooters. Whoever made the barrel was good.
  
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Re: Stevens Tip Up Question
Reply #5 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 1:50am
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Yes, I often look at somebody's pretty workmanship on guns and gun stuff and think it's a shame they didn't at least put their initials on it somewhere.

What's the caliber?
  
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Re: Stevens Tip Up Question
Reply #6 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 8:02am
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slumlord44 wrote on Aug 21st, 2017 at 10:59pm:
While modified guns like this may not be worth as much as a collectable, I always find guns with period modifications interesting both from a historicial prespective plus they often are excellent shooters.


So do I, provided the work is first-class, and not an idiot's tinkering.  (Although there's one kind of "period modification" I'll never be able to cotton to, the "varmint guns" made up in the '40s & '50s.)   
  
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