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WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 LOW WALL SCHUETZEN RIFLE
Aug 30th, 2017 at 6:59pm
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My first schuetzen. I just won at auction yesterday. The ad listed it as Manufactured in 1919. Zischang  buttstock.  22 LR Barrel Length: 30" Serial Number: 119732

I would like to know everything about it ? Who made it? Any and all info comments welcome and thanks from a newb

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Reply #1 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:17pm
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All I know is that it is one beautiful rifle!
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:36pm
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oneatatime wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
All I know is that it is one beautiful rifle!


And that's exactly all I know too!!! Smiley

would love to know some more
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:46pm
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The stock and butt plate appear to be Laudensack, not Zischang.


Beautiful!


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westerner wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:46pm:
The stock and butt plate appear to be Laudensack, not Zischang.
Beautiful!
             Joe.

Thanks I no the auction house just gives it a guess... I will research Laudensack

Is it a Low Wall Win 1855?
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:52pm
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Low Wall 1885.  Search Winchester Laudensack "images"


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Reply #6 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:25pm
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Beautiful Rifle!
  

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shovel80 wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
Beautiful Rifle!

Thanks Shovel80 Do you know anything about it??

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Reply #8 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:53pm
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My goodness congratulations on owning such a beautiful rifle! Please get out to a match and shoot it  Smiley
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Reply #9 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 9:15pm
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Well, I guess I'll just go along with the gang and congratulate you on a great start with this beauty. Go shoot 'er off a little and let us see what she'll do.
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 9:33pm
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thanks to all... its a beauty for sure

how do I find out who made it??
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 10:37pm
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great gun Bill!
You outbid me on that one, but I got a couple of others at that auction.

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Reply #12 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 12:08am
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Looking at the pics, it is marked EL Longo on the barrel.
  

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Reply #13 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 12:27am
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Gorgeous Low Wall schuetzen!
  

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Reply #14 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 2:18am
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I think an engraved Schuetzen Low Wall would have been pre-WW1.  According to the gurus, the Winchester records do not record anything with a SN > 110,000.  Campbell's Vol. 1 has a list that would date the rifle at late 1913 or some time in 1914.  My understanding is that the market for such rifles died with the US preparation for WW1, about 1915-1916.

It should be a coil spring action.  Is it?

Using Ancestry.com, I tried a search for E.L. Longo with birth dates of 1860 and 1870.  I did not get a clear hit, but there are hundreds of people in the US with the surname Longo.  There are also a couple of pre-WW2 wildcat cartridges attributed to a guy named Longo.  One was a blown-out Krag case with a sharp shoulder, reported in a Winchester 54.

Is that Winchester factory engraving?
  
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