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Re: WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 LOW WALL SCHUETZEN RIFLE
Reply #30 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 2:32pm
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I believe that's Herbert R. Longo, a 25 Hornet type round envisioned as a centerfire 25 Stevens rimfire. could be wrong.
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Reply #31 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 3:13pm
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Rebel wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 2:32pm:
I believe that's Herbert R. Longo, a 25 Hornet type round envisioned as a centerfire 25 Stevens rimfire. could be wrong.
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Herbert Longo had a daughter Elaine Longo
  
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Reply #32 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 3:18pm
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I think you'll find it's a newer barrel, sure looks it.
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Reply #33 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 3:18pm
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Rebel wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 1:51pm:
I think all there is between the double set triggers is the adjusting screw.
You can fire the rifle by just pulling the front trigger, or you can pull the rear trigger first which makes the front trigger much lighter, a "hair trigger".
The screw between the triggers adjust how light the front trigger is in set mode. Those set triggers add much to the value of the rifle in my opinion.
The set triggers add complexity and increase lock time somewhat.
I'm sure others will chime in on which is best.
Double set triggers (DST's) are rare, very rare on low walls and way cool.
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I don't see too many double set triggers that have that screw adjust

SO I am guessing this is a modern build rifle ?? Like CPA or  Wyoming Armory ??? If this is a modern build say last 20 years it must have cost a bundle to have something like this made to order??

Or was it made it the 1920's or thereabouts??

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Reply #34 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 3:36pm
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Well, you asked so I tried to explain.
I've never seen dst's without it, not just Winchesters.
My Ballards and Hepburns all have it too. So do Stevens.
Of course, I haven't seen it all.
You might buy a book or two with some pics, it will be very educational. Campbell wrote some good ones on the 1885.
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Or take a look at some pics on the internet.
In my opinion, your gun looks to new to have been done in the 20's
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Reply #35 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 4:02pm
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Rebel wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Well,
In my opinion, your gun looks to new to have been done in the 20's
Aaron


Thanks for all the help Aaron and Quigley's on the agenda for the evening!........

If I had to place a bet I would guess its no more than 10 years old .  So how do I go about finding out who made a modern beauty like this one?
  
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Reply #36 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 4:03pm
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Shooting DST rifles without setting the rear trigger is not a good idea! It likely will eventually break the trigger mechanism.
  

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Reply #37 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 4:48pm
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You'll find lots of opinions on this sight, I always trust Marlinguy (Vall).
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Reply #38 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 5:05pm
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I think 40_Rod had the best clue - an old Schuetzenmeister in Florida (was in West Palm Beach 2000-2002) seems like the kind of guy who would have had rifles like that and with the trail gone cold in 2002, may have shuffled off the mortal coil. Anyone check the West Palm obits?
  
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Reply #39 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 5:17pm
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WALNUT HILL wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 3:13pm:
Rebel wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 2:32pm:
I believe that's Herbert R. Longo, a 25 Hornet type round envisioned as a centerfire 25 Stevens rimfire. could be wrong.
Aaron


Herbert Longo had a daughter Elaine Longo


Herbert Longo also developed a wildcat on the Krag cartridge.  Supposedly you could shoot factory Krag ammo in the appropriate rifle (Win 54 or High Wall) and is would blow out, moving the shoulder forward.

And could Elaine have had that beautiful rifle made?

I agree that Larry Longo is the most likely.
  
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Reply #40 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 5:36pm
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Walnut Hill, why not call the auction and see if they will tell you anything?
Let me know if you do please.
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Reply #41 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 9:16pm
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Rebel wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 5:36pm:
Walnut Hill, why not call the auction and see if they will tell you anything?
Let me know if you do please.
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I will try and find out I'm waiting for the invoice......
  
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Reply #42 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 9:29pm
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oneatatime wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 5:05pm:
I think 40_Rod had the best clue - an old Schuetzenmeister in Florida (was in West Palm Beach 2000-2002) seems like the kind of guy who would have had rifles like that and with the trail gone cold in 2002, may have shuffled off the mortal coil. Anyone check the West Palm obits?


The auction was out of Florida as well
  
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Reply #43 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 10:06pm
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WALNUT HILL wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Rebel wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Well,
In my opinion, your gun looks to new to have been done in the 20's
Aaron


Thanks for all the help Aaron and Quigley's on the agenda for the evening!........

If I had to place a bet I would guess its no more than 10 years old .  So how do I go about finding out who made a modern beauty like this one?


I think the gun is likely much older, but the rework or restoration is recent. Big difference between when a gun was born, vs. when it might have been reworked.
But it's still a beauty!
  

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Reply #44 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 10:56am
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WALNUT HILL wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 9:29pm:
oneatatime wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 5:05pm:
I think 40_Rod had the best clue - an old Schuetzenmeister in Florida (was in West Palm Beach 2000-2002) seems like the kind of guy who would have had rifles like that and with the trail gone cold in 2002, may have shuffled off the mortal coil. Anyone check the West Palm obits?


The auction was out of Florida as well


I asked the auction house

"All of those firearms were out of one estate here in Tallahassee."

but would not give a name






  
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