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Sep 2nd, 2017 at 1:22am
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Post your Meunier rifle here.

I'll start with Jon Spencer and his Meunier rifle.


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Reply #1 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 5:09pm
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Great old piece. Any details on cal. history etc.?

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Reply #2 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 11:46pm
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.40 I think. No false muzzle, turned for a starter. Berg butt plate.


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westerner wrote on Sep 3rd, 2017 at 11:46pm:
.40 I think. No false muzzle, turned for a starter. Berg butt plate.


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That probably makes it a Picket Rifle, if it has a slower twist.

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Reply #4 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:29am
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What came first, the Picket rifle or the Schuetzen rifle?  Twist in my Meunier percussion Schuetzen rifle is about thirty. Is it a picket rifle or a Schuetzen rifle?  I call it a Schuetzen rifle even though it was used with a picket bullet. Is it important? Meunier is the important part.  If I have to type Schuetzen one more time my head will explode. Wink Schuetzen....................POOOOF!!  Shocked


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Reply #5 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:40pm
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Don't know.  Were there any round ball Schuetzen rifles?   If there were that should settle it  Cheesy
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:14pm
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Not familiar with the Meunier rifles, so looking forward to the pictures and discussion!
  

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westerner wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:29am:
What came first, the Picket rifle or the Schuetzen rifle?  Twist in my Meunier percussion Schuetzen rifle is about thirty. Is it a picket rifle or a Schuetzen rifle?  I call it a Schuetzen rifle even though it was used with a picket bullet. Is it important? Meunier is the important part.  If I have to type Schuetzen one more time my head will explode. Wink Schuetzen....................POOOOF!!  Shocked


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Joe,
I didn't mean to change it from a Schuetzen, to a Picket rifle. I was talking more about what it would shoot for a load.

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Reply #8 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:56am
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Frank, yes you did.  Grin   I shoot all sorts of projectiles from my percussion Schuetzen rifles but they are still percussion Schuetzen rifles.  Picket bullets suck.

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Reply #9 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:35am
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What's to dislike about picket bullets. They do pretty well against shug guns. Only one point off.

Pretty darn good for what a picket bullet is. They have very little bearing area but, fly very well. I'm not sure where you can get linen for the patching but, you could maybe add some bearing area and use Velum paper.

Sad thing about that match result, is everyone is dead but me.

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Reply #10 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:51am
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What I dislike about picket bullets is, in order to get good accuracy, large charges of powder are required. When using large powder charges the diopter hits me in the eye. The scores you posted look like bench rest scores, Frank. Percussion Schuetzen rifles are used in the offhand position.  The stocks are the wrong shape for BR shooting.



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Reply #11 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 12:17pm
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When using large powder charges the diopter hits me in the eye.
Smiley

I'm sure lots of people like that result...... fun to watch  Smiley After all, you have Patty to patch you up now Smiley

If it shoots good off the bench, it will shoot better OH, too?

Maybe a little more bearing area would = lower powder charges? Give it a full base band and a taper like a short BS bullet. Picket molds are easy to make, too.

My slug gun was more like a Picket. It just had a bullet starter with X paper patches and I put a 2 deg lead in the lands of the Douglas barrel, to keep the patches from tearing. I used a 20/1 cast bullet (not swaged), groove diameter base band and the rest was bore riding.

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If it shoots good off the bench, it will shoot better OH, too?

No. The rifles are shot in the offhand position. If the diopter hit's you in the eye shooting is not good.  Not a BR rifle.


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Reply #13 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 4:06pm
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Hey Joe, show us your Meunier!!
  

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Reply #14 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 4:52pm
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Mike messing with my Meunier rifle at Hamilton MT 2010.


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