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.32 RKS and Win 296?
Sep 3rd, 2017 at 12:15am
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I'd like to try using 296 in the .32 RKS but have no idea where to start.

Any suggestions?

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Re: .32 RKS and Win 296?
Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 12:54am
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Don't know, but when I used it in .357, Winchester warned it has high pressures both under and over loaded.
  

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Reply #2 - Sep 3rd, 2017 at 1:45am
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296 is slower than #9. You can start with the #9 powder charge that they use in the MS and work up. I would guess that a added 1/2 gr of 296 would equal, or be a little slower, than the #9 velocity.

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Re: .32 RKS and Win 296?
Reply #3 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 12:24am
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Thanks for the suggestions.

Maybe I'll just pass on the 296 for awhile.

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Re: .32 RKS and Win 296?
Reply #4 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:33pm
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Just out of curiosity, is there some particular reason you want to use W-296 in the 32 RKS?  Other than having a large quantity of it on hand, I'm not sure I would try to go to such a different powder when so much experimentation has already been done with powders that are equally abundant and economical to use.  Now that the powder selections on the shelves of my LGS and on gun show tables, I'd be looking at one of the more commonly used ones.  I'm shooting a 32/357 round designed by the late Charlie Dell and was able to get a lifetime supply of H-108 before the flow dried up.  If I hadn't, I would be looking at AA-7 or -9 since those powders have a good track record with this family of cartridges.  Using a powder that has been shown to be temperamental in the case in question just seems like more trouble than it would be worth.  JMHO, of course, and YMMV!  Cool

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Re: .32 RKS and Win 296?
Reply #5 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:46pm
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AA #9, H108, WC820, AA 4100 have been proven to be very good powders in the 32 RKS with 11.0 to 13.0 grains.

Higher powder loads results in some blowback around the mouth of the case which can result in some dimpling of the side walls. This is cured by slightly belling the mouth of the case.
  
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Re: .32 RKS and Win 296?
Reply #6 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:06pm
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Thanks again for the comments.  My desire to try 296 is naught but a fading memory.

Old production AA 4100 has been my powder of choice for the .32-RKS.

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Reply #7 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:39pm
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In defence of 296, it's a excellent powder w/o any pressure problems. It will produce lower pressures than powders in the #9 burn range and higher velocitys for the same pressure.

I may not produce the best accuracy in any given application but, it can produce the best in any application, just like any powder in our burn range.

It didn't provide the best accuracy in my 33 ELCO but, I can't tell the difference in accuracy in my wife's 32/20 (30 cal) between it and #9.

Higher density loadings, give excellent accuracy in pistols, I've used it in 32/40 at 12.5 & 13.0 gr and got top accuracy and 6 fps, ES, using F150 primers. Rick McHale uses 15.0/.1 and always shoots well, shooting above 1240 in a 50 shot match.

It's NOT a dangerous powder, the warnings stim from low pressure revolver loads, that flame out  crossing the cylinder gap, usually to large a gap.

It's a powder that's always worth trying.

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Reply #8 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:12pm
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That is interesting Frank.  I can't imagine how that gap issue blows up revolvers.
  

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Reply #9 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:49pm
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SM, I'm guessing it's the next shot that does it when the first bullet is stuck in the barrel because of loss of pressure out the gap.
  
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Reply #10 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:03pm
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oneatatime wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:49pm:
SM, I'm guessing it's the next shot that does it when the first bullet is stuck in the barrel because of loss of pressure out the gap.


Yes, that's right.

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Reply #11 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:55pm
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OK, never thought about the stuck bullet syndrome.  The way the warning was worded I always thought it was a high pressure phenomenon using a low charge.
  

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Re: .32 RKS and Win 296?
Reply #12 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:36am
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My Research shows that all the small based 32s have very similar loads. I would start with a mid 32MS load from a manual and decrease it by 10% then work back up.

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Re: .32 RKS and Win 296?
Reply #13 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 10:22am
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Have an unopened 8 lb. keg of 296 here, and been wondering what to use it on? Never used it myself, and bought  it at a gun estate sale. Not sure I have anything small enough to put it to good use in.
  

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