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Anyone ever seen a sight like this?
Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:53pm
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This is a pretty strange "tang sight". It's made to mount on the tang area of a Ballard rifle, and accepts a modified Lyman receiver sight.

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The receiver sight is milled with two receiver slots, and a large thumb knob to secure the sight. The back of the mount is milled with two rails that have positive stops to return the sight to zero when removed and reinstalled.

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Craftsmanship is very nice, and the base appears to be a nicely finished casting that is blued. Spacing is the standard Ballard 1.125" holes. The Lyman has 125 minutes of elevation, which should be good for most mid range work.
Wonder who made them, and how many might have been made?
  

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Re: Anyone ever seen a sight like this?
Reply #1 - Sep 10th, 2017 at 9:49pm
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Might have been conceived in the early days of prone shooting, when many Ballards were bastardized for that purpose.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 10th, 2017 at 9:53pm
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Good idea.  My Peterson Ballard was a prone gun.
  

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Re: Anyone ever seen a sight like this?
Reply #3 - Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:00pm
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I have another similar base here, also for a Ballard. But it's designed to mount a receiver sight on it with the normal mounting screws. Not nearly as sophisticated as this setup!
But tells me there might have been a market for these on Ballard prone or benchrest guns you mentioned.
  

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Re: Anyone ever seen a sight like this?
Reply #4 - Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm
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The (modified) LYman sight is an early No 48, such as was used on
the M2 Springfield 22 as well as in M1903 rifles modified for target shooting. They have coarser click adjustments
of 1/2 min vs the later M48s with 1/4 min clicks.
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Re: Anyone ever seen a sight like this?
Reply #5 - Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:21pm
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BUT, I just noticed the old mounting screw holes are
vertical from each other. The Springfield, and other
bolt rifle sights have two screws horizontal from each other.
So this M48 was originally for mounting on some rifle other than the Sprfld,etc.
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Reply #6 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 8:48am
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Gents,

I believe that Lyman 48 sight was originally designed and marketed for use on the Martini Model 12 rifle, as indicated by vertical mounting holes.  It also has a flat top on the elevation slide, whereas Springfield sights had a step in them.  Doesn't really matter either way, somebody went to some real effort and did some nice work adapting it to their purpose.

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Re: Anyone ever seen a sight like this?
Reply #7 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:33am
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Yes, it appears to be for a flat top and flat sided receiver, but I figure that was chosen as a donor to give the end sight more mass when it was machined and fitted to the base rails of this design.
When I loosen the knob and slide the sight up or down, there's zero wiggle or play on those rails! A really nicely fitted design!
  

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