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Scope mount ID?
Sep 13th, 2017 at 4:26pm
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Fellows,
I acquired these mounts/rings in a miscellaneous parts bin buy at a large gun show in the Spring.
I'm most interested in the two mounts in the foreground in the pictures. At first, I thought they might be Stevens, but I cannot find any pictures of Stevens mounts that match these.
If you have any ideas, I'd appreciate them. That goes for the other two rings in the background too.
Thanks.
Lance

P.S. the front, left mount has windage adjustment, but assembled backward in relation to the base (hash marks on opposite sides, and the spring should be facing to the rear, I assume)
  
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Reply #1 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 5:37am
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In your first picture - bottom right: it appears to be a rear ring from the Stevens No.1 mount.  There's an illustration of the mounts in the Bill West Stevens book 1st ed. p.10-8 (catalog #55, 1919)
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:48am
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Windage adjustable mount is a Malcolm (or Malcolm-type) non-sliding front mount.  But the V-notch filed into the ring indicates it was adapted for use with a Stevens scope, which indexes by means of a pin on the top of the tube pulled back into the notch after firing.
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 9:04am
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dibbler wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 5:37am:
In your first picture - bottom right: it appears to be a rear ring from the Stevens No.1 mount.  There's an illustration of the mounts in the Bill West Stevens book 1st ed. p.10-8 (catalog #55, 1919)

Thanks, they sure looked Stevens-like, but all I have is Stroebel's book (admittedly, not an authority on 19th century items) and nothing in there really matched.
  
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Redsetter wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:48am:
Windage adjustable mount is a Malcolm (or Malcolm-type) non-sliding front mount.  But the V-notch filed into the ring indicates it was adapted for use with a Stevens scope, which indexes by means of a pin on the top of the tube pulled back into the notch after firing.

Thanks!  Yes, I should have mentioned the added notch in the top of the ring.
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 9:57am
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gewehrfreund wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 9:04am:
...all I have is Stroebel's book (admittedly, not an authority on 19th century items)...


Truer words ne'er were spake.  (Though he's usually quoted as THE authority!)
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 10:12am
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Strobel's book is a decent resource, but obviously a great number of omissions, and a few errors too. I think he's more of a sight guy than a scope guy.
  

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Reply #7 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 9:04pm
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Hi gewehrfreund,

Any interest in selling the Stevens #1 mount?

Mike
  
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mctaylor250 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 9:04pm:
Hi gewehrfreund,

Any interest in selling the Stevens #1 mount?

Mike


Possibly, but I have to find out what a fair price is first. I'd hate to be too far either side of that.
I'll be taking it along to the Syracuse gun show tomorrow, and may get some opinions, or buying offers there.
PM me if you have a price in mind.

Lance
  
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gewehrfreund wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 11:11am:
I'll be taking it along to the Syracuse gun show tomorrow, and may get some opinions, or buying offers there.Lance


I'd be surprised if you find anyone there who can help you; 20 yrs ago, there'd have been several who could, but that was before camo & jerky overtook the place--not to mention the harvest of the Grim Reaper.  Best bet is looking for SOLD prices on ebay, but such items don't come up often.
  
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Redsetter wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 1:38pm:
gewehrfreund wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 11:11am:
I'll be taking it along to the Syracuse gun show tomorrow, and may get some opinions, or buying offers there.Lance


I'd be surprised if you find anyone there who can help you; 20 yrs ago, there'd have been several who could, but that was before camo & jerky overtook the place--not to mention the harvest of the Grim Reaper.  Best bet is looking for SOLD prices on ebay, but such items don't come up often.


I'm hoping Ken Bean will be there, though I think his health has prevented him coming to the last couple shows.
There are a few other old timers who still set up and have some very nice stuff for sale/display.
But the show is certainly nothing like it used to be. That goes double for the Rochester show.
  
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gewehrfreund wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
I'm hoping Ken Bean will be there, though I think his health has prevented him coming to the last couple shows...


Good idea, if he makes it.  I remember when Ken was the "new" sight guy, trying to horn in on what previously had been Gary Fellow's excusive turf!  (One of those harvested by the Reaper, I think.)
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:48pm
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Redsetter wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
gewehrfreund wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
I'm hoping Ken Bean will be there, though I think his health has prevented him coming to the last couple shows...


Good idea, if he makes it.  I remember when Ken was the "new" sight guy, trying to horn in on what previously had been Gary Fellow's excusive turf!  (One of those harvested by the Reaper, I think.)


Considering all the bad reviews Gary Fellers has gotten over the years, it wasn't hard for somebody to take over!
  

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Reply #13 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 10:07pm
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marlinguy wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:48pm:
Considering all the bad reviews Gary Fellers has gotten over the years, it wasn't hard for somebody to take over!


This is true--yet for years, he was THE major sight dealer, setting up half a doz. tables at shows from Texas to New England, when Nick Stroebel was putting out little lists mainly of receiver sights.  (His first wife, however, was a sweetheart, whom I never understood how he landed.)
  
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