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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3180 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #15 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 2:00pm	Print Post
	coondawg wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 1:16pm: oops I meant non-matching number. I was told the serial number matches a highwall. Number appears to have been messed with--almost looks like an electric pencil was used on it. The early LWs (which this one is not) used same lower tang as HWs, but later ones used a different, thinner, one that would stand high in the inletting if not modified. So maybe what someone did was grind it down in thickness, then re-mark the ser. no. with an electric pencil.


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Bent_Ramrod Oldtimer Offline Posts: 938 Location: Southern Arizona Joined: Feb 8^th, 2006	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #16 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 2:30pm	Print Post
	You’re probably going to have to pull all those bullets anyway. Bullets for all the original small .25 centerfires had stubby noses, like the one you show on the WCF Version. I like the retention of the “tulip” end on the rebarrel job on the Low Wall. Gives it a nice, expensive touch.


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ledball Oldtimer Offline Posts: 795 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #17 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 2:57pm	Print Post
	I think that 25/20 SS case will chamber after you pull that ugly looking jacketed bullet. Ledball


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coondawg Junior Forum Member Offline Posts: 14 Joined: Apr 6^th, 2018	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #18 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the replies. I will pull a bullet and see if the brass fits. If it does I will pull the rest. I have considered shooting black powder loads. I had a gut feeling that the serial number on the Winchester was ep'ed but was hoping it was the right serial number. It is a good shooter even with my old eyes. Thanks, Robert


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coondawg Junior Forum Member Offline Posts: 14 Joined: Apr 6^th, 2018	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #19 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 6:41pm	Print Post
	I pulled a bullet and the brass fits but was still a little tight around the neck.


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coondawg Junior Forum Member Offline Posts: 14 Joined: Apr 6^th, 2018	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #20 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 9:00am	Print Post
	I ordered a CPA breech seating case this morning. Seems like the the way to go with 25-20ss.


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50target Junior Forum Member Offline Posts: 35 Location: Alabama Joined: May 27^th, 2014	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #21 - Apr 28^th, 2018 at 2:50pm	Print Post
	I recently bought a Stevens 44 in 25-20SS and looked at that Jamison ammo and was not impresses with their choice of bullets. I would think you're getting interference with the bullet in OAL. Funny they didn't choose a cast given its history and its advertised fps. Probably buy a box for mine but pull the factory and put in an 86 gr cast. I think if you remove the bullet and powder & try the case, it will fit if chamber is factory. Bob


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2130 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #22 - Apr 29^th, 2018 at 3:19am	Print Post
	Stevens barrels were rather soft and were intended for lead alloy bullets. Jacketed bullets will cause unnecessary wear & will not help accuracy.


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coondawg Junior Forum Member Offline Posts: 14 Joined: Apr 6^th, 2018	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #23 - Apr 30^th, 2018 at 8:22am	Print Post
	I pulled all the bullets from my Jamison brass and I'm breech seating .258 85gr cast SPG lubed bullets. I've been shooting them with a case full of 2FFG Goex with a small lube patch on top and they are fun to shoot. I'm fixing to try some 4227 in the 6.7-7gr range with a tuff of cotton in the neck to see if the groups tighten up. My plan is to get some Swiss black powder and try it, but I want to see how 4227 recoils and groups first.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2426 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #24 - May 5^th, 2018 at 7:38pm	Print Post
	When did Jamison offer assembled ammo for the .25-20? Did I miss something?

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John Boy Frequent Elocutionist Offline ASSRA #10288 (Paid Feb 2019 - 2 Yrs) Posts: 2809 Location: New Jersey Joined: Feb 19^th, 2006	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #25 - May 11^th, 2018 at 4:56pm	Print Post
	Quote: here are a few pictures. Did I read somewhere that Stevens made ~ 4000 rifles with a gold wash action like the one in the picture?

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3180 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #26 - May 11^th, 2018 at 9:58pm	Print Post
	John Boy wrote on May 11^th, 2018 at 4:56pm: Did I read somewhere that Stevens made ~ 4000 rifles with a gold wash action like the one in the picture? I remember that too; Mad Magazine, wasn't it?


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coljimmy Full Member Offline Posts: 245 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2012	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #27 - May 11^th, 2018 at 11:15pm	Print Post
	Dang, I forgot to renew my subscription for Mad Mag. My first 25-20SS was and is a nice Hopkins & Allen 3925 which I fed lead to with an original Winchester mold marked 25-20SS which appears to be the same mold as the Ideal #4 tool for both the SS and the 25-20R/WCF. Shoots good. Also have a Stevens 44 with a worn muzzle which I had done back to 25-20SS of course. I had bought a partial box of jacketed 25's, but see no good reason to use them. James


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coondawg Junior Forum Member Offline Posts: 14 Joined: Apr 6^th, 2018	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #28 - May 31^st, 2018 at 8:38am	Print Post
	I finally got to shoot some rounds loaded with 4227. I loaded up 6 rounds each of 6.5, 6.8 and 7gr. 6.8 shot the best with a .258 85gr SPG lubed breech seated cast bullet and a Federal small pistol primer and a tuff of cotton in the neck to keep the powder in place. It put 6 shot in the tape at 50 yards off the hood of my truck with tired old eyes. I do need to find a better rest next time. This Gold gun is pretty nice shooter. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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Bent_Ramrod Oldtimer Offline Posts: 938 Location: Southern Arizona Joined: Feb 8^th, 2006	Re: J. Stevens model 44 Reply #29 - May 31^st, 2018 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	A Stevens rifle with a pristine original bore is a treasure. Looks like yours is doing well.


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