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Re: J. Stevens model 44
Reply #15 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 2:00pm
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coondawg wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
oops I meant non-matching number. I was told the serial number matches a highwall.



Number appears to have been messed with--almost looks like an electric pencil was used on it.

The early LWs (which this one is not) used same lower tang as HWs, but later ones used a different, thinner, one that would stand high in the inletting if not modified.  So maybe what someone did was grind it down in thickness, then re-mark the ser. no. with an electric pencil.


  
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Re: J. Stevens model 44
Reply #16 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 2:30pm
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You’re probably going to have to pull all those bullets anyway.  Bullets for all the original small .25 centerfires had stubby noses, like the one you show on the WCF Version.

I like the retention of the “tulip” end on the rebarrel job on the Low Wall.  Gives it a nice, expensive touch.
  
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Re: J. Stevens model 44
Reply #17 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 2:57pm
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I think that 25/20 SS case will chamber after you pull that ugly looking jacketed bullet.  Ledball
  
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Reply #18 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 3:59pm
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Thanks for the replies. I will pull a bullet and see if the brass fits. If it does I will pull the rest. I have considered shooting black powder loads.

I had a gut feeling that the serial number on the Winchester was ep'ed but was hoping it was the right serial number. It is a good shooter even with my old eyes.

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Reply #19 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 6:41pm
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I pulled a bullet and the brass fits but was still a little tight around the neck.
  
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Reply #20 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 9:00am
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I ordered a CPA breech seating case this morning. Seems like the the way to go with 25-20ss.
  
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Re: J. Stevens model 44
Reply #21 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 2:50pm
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I recently bought a Stevens 44 in 25-20SS and looked at that Jamison ammo and was not impresses  with their choice of bullets. I would think you're getting interference with the bullet in OAL. Funny they didn't choose a cast given its history and its advertised fps.
Probably buy a box for mine but pull the factory and put in an 86 gr cast. I think if you remove the bullet and powder & try the case, it will fit if chamber is factory.
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Re: J. Stevens model 44
Reply #22 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 3:19am
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Stevens barrels were rather soft and were intended for lead alloy bullets.  Jacketed bullets will cause unnecessary wear & will not help accuracy.
  
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Reply #23 - Apr 30th, 2018 at 8:22am
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I pulled all the bullets from my Jamison brass and I'm breech seating .258 85gr cast SPG lubed bullets. I've been shooting them with a case full of 2FFG Goex with a small lube patch on top and they are fun to shoot. I'm fixing to try some 4227 in the 6.7-7gr range with a tuff of cotton in the neck to see if the groups tighten up. My plan is to get some Swiss black powder and try it, but I want to see how 4227 recoils and groups first.
  
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Re: J. Stevens model 44
Reply #24 - May 5th, 2018 at 7:38pm
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When did Jamison offer assembled ammo for the .25-20?   Did I miss something?
  

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Re: J. Stevens model 44
Reply #25 - May 11th, 2018 at 4:56pm
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here are a few pictures.

Did I read somewhere that Stevens made ~ 4000 rifles with a gold wash action like the one in the picture?
  

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Reply #26 - May 11th, 2018 at 9:58pm
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John Boy wrote on May 11th, 2018 at 4:56pm:
Did I read somewhere that Stevens made ~ 4000 rifles with a gold wash action like the one in the picture?


I remember that too; Mad Magazine, wasn't it?
  
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Re: J. Stevens model 44
Reply #27 - May 11th, 2018 at 11:15pm
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Dang, I forgot to renew my subscription for Mad Mag.

My first 25-20SS was and is a nice Hopkins & Allen 3925 which I fed lead to with an original Winchester mold marked 25-20SS which appears to be the  same mold as the Ideal #4 tool for both the SS and the 25-20R/WCF.  Shoots good.  Also have a Stevens 44 with a worn muzzle which I had done back to 25-20SS of course.  I had bought a partial box of jacketed 25's, but see no good reason to use them.

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Re: J. Stevens model 44
Reply #28 - May 31st, 2018 at 8:38am
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I finally got to shoot some rounds loaded with 4227. I loaded up 6 rounds each of 6.5, 6.8 and 7gr. 6.8 shot the best with a .258 85gr SPG lubed breech seated cast bullet and a Federal small pistol primer and a tuff of cotton in the neck to keep the powder in place. It put 6 shot in the tape at 50 yards off the hood of my truck with tired old eyes. I do need to find a better rest next time. This Gold gun is pretty nice shooter.
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Re: J. Stevens model 44
Reply #29 - May 31st, 2018 at 9:12pm
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A Stevens rifle with a pristine original bore is a treasure.  Looks like yours is doing well.
  
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