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Many of Us Have RF Rifles - But No Loaded Cases
Jun 9th, 2018 at 5:47pm
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Many of us have rim fire rifles and no rim fire rounds to shoot in them ...
I contacted Roberson Cartridge Co who has a substantial production of lathe turned brass, asking if they would produce various RF brass with the case modified to insert a 6mm Flobert primer as standard catalog purchases
So I'm sending a modified 32 Long case to Mr Roberson for his inspection - test production of one and to determine the pricing per case of a 32 Long... 

If they agree to make such cases for different calibers as a standard catalog purchase - would there be any interest from others buying their modified brass instead of bushing blocks to center fire?
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Reply #1 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:36am
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I'd be interested in .25 and .32 RF cases IF there's a reliable and easy source of 6mm Flobert primers (which, truthfully, I've never even heard of).

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Reply #2 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:51am
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I believe the 6mm Flobert primers are also called "Acorn blanks" since they look kind of like an acorn.  Snell's Gun Dog Supply sells them for ~$10/100.  You can find the reloadable 32 RF cases on GunBroker.  Some come from Europe and others from USA made from reformed 32 S&W Long cases.  A stud gun load works in them also as the propelling charge but you have to stick with the lower power loads.  I think the 25RF is too small for this procedure.  I have heard of people buying the Winchester 17 Super RFs and cutting them up to make 25RF cases.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 12:04pm
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Just buy a Marlin Ballard and it wont be an issue! Wink

Since my Ballard rifles in .32 Long, .38 Long, and .44 Long all have reversible firing pins, I shoot only CF brass in them. I sold all my .32 Long RF except for some collectible boxes of ammo.
  

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Reply #4 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 5:42pm
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I reload and shoot 25 Stevens RF, various 32s, 38 and 44 RF using reformed cases primed with disassembled 22RF cases and carefully selected powder charges. That way, I can fit the cases to the guns, which sometimes have non-standard chambers due to wear, different manufacturer's ideas about chambering, etc. The cases are more or less everlasting, but it would be great to have a source for easily primed cases in the various RF sizes for those who don't care to or aren't able to do the necessary machining. With todays CNC setups, making the various cases would be easily done, and a company might make some money doing it, too, as there are probably a sufficient number of old gun nuts out there who would like to get their (your odd chambering here) shooting again.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 5:55pm
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Bill, here's the link for the 6mm Flobert 'Acorn' primers ...
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Drill out the back of the RF rim and cut a slot for the firing pin to hit the acorn inserted in the case. I shoot this 32RF deal in my Tip Up
  

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Reply #6 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 12:47am
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I would be interested in .25 & .32.
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 3:42am
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westerner wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 2:14am:
Not feeling it.  Interest in purchasing new made obsolete rim fire ammunition to shoot in antique rifles.  Thinking you need more numbers. Way more numbers.


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I can't imagine anyone setting up the tooling to make it, except maybe Bill Gates if you could get him interested in .25 RF  Cheesy
  

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Reply #8 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 3:22pm
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Gents - I'll let you know Yes or No.
Roberson has an extensive line of various center fire lathe turned cases.  Production is done with a CNC machine.  To modify a computer program for a given caliber to cut a hole in the ctg head for a 6mm Acorn and a slot on the rim for the block pin to strike the primer ... is not a big deal IMO
  

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Reply #9 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 6:30pm
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6mm, $8.00/hundred.
  

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you're optically deluded, they work like any standard rimfire Grin
Don't you have a blank gun for training your dogs and such?
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Reply #11 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 6:57pm
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I have one .25 RF that I occasionally shoot. But my experience using these little "blanks" has left me less than satisfied. I'd rather figure a way to convert my .25RF to CF and shoot it.
  

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me too.
I have one Stevens 44 that I changed the block on and re-chambered to 25-20WCF.
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Reply #13 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:18pm
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Rebel wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 8:46pm:
me too.
I have one Stevens 44 that I changed the block on and re-chambered to 25-20WCF.
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Well my one .25 Stevens is a Ballard #3 rebored by Stevens, so not conducive to changing to .25-20 caliber. I have toyed with what .25 CF it would be strong enough for, and tossed around the .25-20SS since factory ammo wouldn't get loaded in it.
In the end I just left it .25 Stevens RF and occasionally shoot it. I've got 7 or 8 boxes of Cannuck ammo for it.

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Reply #14 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 2:05am
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Rebel wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 6:47pm:
you're optically deluded, they work like any standard rimfire Grin
Don't you have a blank gun for training your dogs and such?
Aaron

Wasn't there some outfit that used to sell a blank gun, and after you'ld received and opened up the shipping box containing it, you also found an order form that listed an accessory rifled "parts" barrel you could get that fit that same blank gun?
  

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