Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 6 Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) English rook rifles (Read 10793 times)
Fazer
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 243
Joined: Jun 9th, 2010
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #15 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 8:10pm
Print Post  
Quote:
The names on Rook rifles are the retailers who are only occasionally the actual maker


I realize that. Most your Birmingham guns are Liege, and most your London guns are Birmingham. I know the martini is a Francotte, it is stamped right on the side. I have done some research on  McCririck, he was a gunmaker in Scotland. Not a big producer so possibly his work. It has a mark on the barrel. Have you seen this before Fred

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

I happened to have the WR with me at the last Safari show in Vegas. I talked the WR guys into let me bring it around to show it to them and ask their opinion. They said they made it and would get back to me with any information they could find. But unfortunately the records for the rifle were last in the war as were so many others.

I just to go by whats written on them, Thanks
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Chuck V
Junior Forum Member
**
Offline



Posts: 30
Joined: Feb 11th, 2011
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #16 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 9:02pm
Print Post  
I would gladly collect any and all rook rifles I could find--  so far I've had to satisfy the urge with a Westley Richards Martini Cadet (310cf).
They are excellent examples of the maker's art and few remain in shootable condition today.  I continue the search.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
tjshooter
Junior Forum Member
**
Offline



Posts: 48
Joined: Aug 2nd, 2009
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #17 - Jul 30th, 2018 at 5:39am
Print Post  
Lovely collection Fazer the .450 and the 32/40 not classed as  Rook rifles the .450 often know as Kangaroo rifle but  both for much larger Game than Rooks  and nests in the Trees or Rabbits . Even the Sherwood which I think is a  great Cartridge is over the top really and was used in Park land for the smaller species of Deer although not legal now.

Good Shooting all of them?  TJ.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Fred Boulton
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 720
Joined: Jan 6th, 2007
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #18 - Jul 30th, 2018 at 6:40am
Print Post  
I have never seen the mark, Fazer. I have seen a couple of break action rifles in 300 Sherwood so some early 20th century customers thought it was a Rook cartridge. I do, however, agree that it is way over the top. I shoot mine (a Martini) a lot even though it is a difficult cartridge to load. The shallow taper on the case is effectively a morse taper and and can stick in the breach. Any small oversize section will cause the round to be impossible to chamber. I use a conventional three die set, but de-cap separately and the sequence is: re-cap, add powder, neck expand, seat and then full length re-size. My usual load is 10grn of Reloader 7. First time I used this rifle at Bisley, I won a 100yd off-hand competition with it.
Fred
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
oneatatime
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1527
Location: Rocky Mountains
Joined: Oct 30th, 2011
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #19 - Jul 30th, 2018 at 2:07pm
Print Post  
Here's mine in .300 Rook. All Belgian, no names or marks other than Belgian proofs and a serial number. Simple grooving/outline engraving. I use 32 Long Colt brass and a BACO .300 bullet.
Thinking about it being unmarked, could I speculate that it was made for the British trade but never made it across the channel? Or have you seen other unmarked Belgian ones?
« Last Edit: Aug 1st, 2018 at 12:02pm by oneatatime »  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Huvius
Junior Forum Member
**
Offline



Posts: 68
Location: Wheat Ridge
Joined: Apr 12th, 2011
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #20 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 10:19am
Print Post  
Here are a couple of mine:

Bailey Bonehill 360No.5
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)


H&H 360 No.5 with some paper patched loads I made up.
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)


Webley '02
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)


W.W. Greener 310
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)


Wilkes 300
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)


Army & Navy 300
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)


Westley Richards Deeley Edge patent 320
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)


W.W. Greener 310 double
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
oneatatime
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1527
Location: Rocky Mountains
Joined: Oct 30th, 2011
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #21 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:04pm
Print Post  
Too nice! Love the 1902.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Huvius
Junior Forum Member
**
Offline



Posts: 68
Location: Wheat Ridge
Joined: Apr 12th, 2011
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #22 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 7:40pm
Print Post  
oneatatime wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:04pm:
Too nice! Love the 1902.


Thanks!  It is a lovely rifle.
It had been rebored and chambered for 357 mag. when I bought it and I had John Todd engrave it for me.
It really is a great little rifle.  One that will hopefully never leave the family.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Fazer
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 243
Joined: Jun 9th, 2010
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #23 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 9:34pm
Print Post  
Very nice, I am very impressed. I have a 310 WR sporter similar to your Greener , but the 310 double is to die for. Very nice.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
oldman46
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 152
Joined: Sep 21st, 2016
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #24 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 11:03pm
Print Post  
Thanks to all of you for posting pics of your rook rifles. As one who has never had the pleasure of seeing one up close and personal it was a treat. Never see anything even remotely like that down here in Louisiana. And having said that my only two British 22rf's are a BSA model 12 or 12/15 I bought many years ago when I lived in NYC and a BSA 22rf barreled action I bought here on this forum. Thanks again,Frank
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
powderman
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 222
Location: British Columbia
Joined: Feb 26th, 2005
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #25 - Aug 20th, 2018 at 8:27pm
Print Post  
Huvious,

My moustache stood straight out when saw your Webly '02. Would love to see some more pics of it.

Regards,
Powderman
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
oneatatime
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1527
Location: Rocky Mountains
Joined: Oct 30th, 2011
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #26 - Aug 20th, 2018 at 8:47pm
Print Post  
I've only gotten to fondle one of those round block 1902s but it could not hold a candle to yours. My 1902 is the large economy size.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Huvius
Junior Forum Member
**
Offline



Posts: 68
Location: Wheat Ridge
Joined: Apr 12th, 2011
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #27 - Aug 20th, 2018 at 11:13pm
Print Post  
The other side of my Webley
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)


This is how it started out.
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
powderman
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 222
Location: British Columbia
Joined: Feb 26th, 2005
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #28 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 10:23pm
Print Post  
Thanks for posting.

Regards,
Powderman
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Ponderosa Paul
Junior Forum Member
**
Offline



Posts: 50
Joined: Nov 17th, 2013
Re: English rook rifles
Reply #29 - Aug 31st, 2018 at 11:12pm
Print Post  
They are all beautiful rifles but the one that intrigues me is the Reilly on the Tranter patent.It looks like a simple action that might be somewhat easy to make. Does anyone have any info on these? Thanks, Paul.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 6
Send TopicPrint