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Jul 28th, 2018 at 9:30pm
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Hello  I have  bunch of English rook rifles, or so called.  Is there any that other people that like this kind of thing. They range from London guns to Scottish and Ireland.

I would appreciate any word of people that like these

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Reply #1 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 10:13pm
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Yes I like them I have a Holland and Holland tip up reclined to 25-20 wife, I will try to get some pics tomorrow.
  
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Uuuhh, well, I like took rifles.
  
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Typo: “rook rifles.”
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 6:03am
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I love rook rifles. I used to have a Woodward Martini rook rifle in 360 No.5 that shot 38 long colts into clover leafs at 50 yards- I foolishly let it go when I needed some cash.
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 8:43am
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By all means post photos and descriptions, whats not to like about a Rook rifle?
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Just one of my Rook rifles just Love them. TJ.
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 11:08am
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Here are the pics of the H&H 25-20 wcf.
  
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a couple more
  
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Reply #9 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 11:53am
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Her are pictures of some of them

The side lever tipper is what most people think of with a rook rifle, and what i have most of. This is a Horsley from York, I like the basket weave engraving. It is also on the trigger guard 300 rook

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This is Holland and Holland hammerless in 300 sherwood

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This is a McCririck and soms Ayr Scottland, 300 rook. I think it is a better looking rifle than the H&H

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Small framed snider WC Scott, 38 rook

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This is just a bit different a reilly on a tranter patent, 38 rook

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One of the martini action ones, Chas Osborne 450 rook

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Not really sure if this classifies as a rook rifle. A Westly Richards in 32-40. They actually used this caliber a lot. The photo makes the checkering on the wrist look bad, don't know why

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Reply #10 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 12:18pm
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the Snyder is really cool, as they all are.
  
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Reply #11 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 3:47pm
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The Horsley is over flowing with Charm.
  
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Those are beautiful, as are your Winchesters, I'm impressed with the collection you have. Never saw a small Snider, and didn't even know they existed. Thanks. Smiley
  

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Reply #13 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 5:29pm
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The names on Rook rifles are the retailers who are only occasionally the actual makers.
Fazer, top to bottom;1) Perks,2) Webley,3) ???could be Webley, 4) Belgian, 5) Tranter, 6)Braendlin Armoury, 7) Westley Richards---action possibly Francotte.
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Reply #14 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 5:51pm
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Lovely collections/specimens, all! I have a Issac Hollis and Sons Martini action in 380 Rook, but it’s not in as good as a shape as any of the pictured guns here. All the other ones that I have seen seem to command prices that are a bit too much for me, but I am always looking out for them.
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Reply #15 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 8:10pm
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The names on Rook rifles are the retailers who are only occasionally the actual maker


I realize that. Most your Birmingham guns are Liege, and most your London guns are Birmingham. I know the martini is a Francotte, it is stamped right on the side. I have done some research on  McCririck, he was a gunmaker in Scotland. Not a big producer so possibly his work. It has a mark on the barrel. Have you seen this before Fred

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I happened to have the WR with me at the last Safari show in Vegas. I talked the WR guys into let me bring it around to show it to them and ask their opinion. They said they made it and would get back to me with any information they could find. But unfortunately the records for the rifle were last in the war as were so many others.

I just to go by whats written on them, Thanks
  
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Reply #16 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 9:02pm
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I would gladly collect any and all rook rifles I could find--  so far I've had to satisfy the urge with a Westley Richards Martini Cadet (310cf).
They are excellent examples of the maker's art and few remain in shootable condition today.  I continue the search.
  
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Reply #17 - Jul 30th, 2018 at 5:39am
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Lovely collection Fazer the .450 and the 32/40 not classed as  Rook rifles the .450 often know as Kangaroo rifle but  both for much larger Game than Rooks  and nests in the Trees or Rabbits . Even the Sherwood which I think is a  great Cartridge is over the top really and was used in Park land for the smaller species of Deer although not legal now.

Good Shooting all of them?  TJ.
  
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Reply #18 - Jul 30th, 2018 at 6:40am
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I have never seen the mark, Fazer. I have seen a couple of break action rifles in 300 Sherwood so some early 20th century customers thought it was a Rook cartridge. I do, however, agree that it is way over the top. I shoot mine (a Martini) a lot even though it is a difficult cartridge to load. The shallow taper on the case is effectively a morse taper and and can stick in the breach. Any small oversize section will cause the round to be impossible to chamber. I use a conventional three die set, but de-cap separately and the sequence is: re-cap, add powder, neck expand, seat and then full length re-size. My usual load is 10grn of Reloader 7. First time I used this rifle at Bisley, I won a 100yd off-hand competition with it.
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Reply #19 - Jul 30th, 2018 at 2:07pm
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Here's mine in .300 Rook. All Belgian, no names or marks other than Belgian proofs and a serial number. Simple grooving/outline engraving. I use 32 Long Colt brass and a BACO .300 bullet.
Thinking about it being unmarked, could I speculate that it was made for the British trade but never made it across the channel? Or have you seen other unmarked Belgian ones?
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Reply #20 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 10:19am
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Here are a couple of mine:

Bailey Bonehill 360No.5
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H&H 360 No.5 with some paper patched loads I made up.
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Webley '02
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Reply #21 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:04pm
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Too nice! Love the 1902.
  
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oneatatime wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:04pm:
Too nice! Love the 1902.


Thanks!  It is a lovely rifle.
It had been rebored and chambered for 357 mag. when I bought it and I had John Todd engrave it for me.
It really is a great little rifle.  One that will hopefully never leave the family.
  
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Reply #23 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 9:34pm
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Very nice, I am very impressed. I have a 310 WR sporter similar to your Greener , but the 310 double is to die for. Very nice.
  
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Reply #24 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 11:03pm
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Thanks to all of you for posting pics of your rook rifles. As one who has never had the pleasure of seeing one up close and personal it was a treat. Never see anything even remotely like that down here in Louisiana. And having said that my only two British 22rf's are a BSA model 12 or 12/15 I bought many years ago when I lived in NYC and a BSA 22rf barreled action I bought here on this forum. Thanks again,Frank
  
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Reply #25 - Aug 20th, 2018 at 8:27pm
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Huvious,

My moustache stood straight out when saw your Webly '02. Would love to see some more pics of it.

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I've only gotten to fondle one of those round block 1902s but it could not hold a candle to yours. My 1902 is the large economy size.
  
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The other side of my Webley
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This is how it started out.
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Reply #28 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 10:23pm
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Thanks for posting.

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They are all beautiful rifles but the one that intrigues me is the Reilly on the Tranter patent.It looks like a simple action that might be somewhat easy to make. Does anyone have any info on these? Thanks, Paul.
  
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the one that intrigues me is the Reilly on the Tranter patent.It looks like a simple action that might be somewhat easy to make. Does anyone have any info on these?


If  you are interested I could pull it apart and get some pictures to you, if you think that could help
  
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I would be interested also in seeing the parts.
  
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Sorry for the delay but things have been difficult here as of late.

I have some rudimentary pictures here. Haven't pulled it completely down as I just want to be sure that I won't need some special tool to put it back together. Way things are going that's what would happen.

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Extractor type, this is a different rifle, but this type of extractor
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If and when I can get time, I'll see if I can't get it all broken down
  
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Reply #33 - Sep 5th, 2018 at 10:45pm
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I googled Tranter patent rifle and got quite a bit of info.If you go to Images and scroll down you will see a drawing of the Rook rifle. It looks like it would be a good candidate for a home build. I went to the Firearms Tech Museum site and found a lot of info on Tranter and his firearms, I printed a copy of the Rook and I think it might almost be full size. Paul
  
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Reply #34 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 12:30am
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Huvius,
Thank you for posting pictures of your Webley.   I like it!  I have one of Rodney's castings that I'm working on as a demo for the students in my night class.  Undecided on the caliber it will become but I'm leaning towards the 25-35 W.C.F. - Mr. Winfer commented that it was actually one of the calibers the rook was chambered in, since I don't remember having a firearm chambered in this...   Smiley
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Reply #35 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 11:32am
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The Webley round breech block is a fine, beautiful little action, but use caution selecting cartridges for them.
Most of the breech block support comes from the bottom of the loading trough.
The high walls don't offer much support because they tend to spread outward from the round breech block.
Have seen gaps between the breech block and sidewalls.
I don't rate the action as that much stronger than a Winchester Low-Wall.
Just my opinion, others disagree.
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Chuck,
Thanks for the bit o wisdom, I have not studied the frame casting real close - time has been spent on the lower tang and lever.   A quick glance at it originally and there appeared to be considerable material back side of the breech block area -the casting has no material removed for the loading trough so there was plenty.  Laying a cartridge in the area - as per my photo, much of this support will go away.  I will recalculate stress and strain to surface area before choosing a cartridge for this.  The only up side to this is it is modern steel (8620) vs whatever was used at the turn of the century.
Huvius,
If at some time would you post or PM a picture from the top -  breech open and closed?
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Here are some pictures.
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Was a good discussion here with pictures and finite element model but turned into a P-contest and OP deleted everything.
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OP sometime posts here if he sees this.
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Reply #38 - Sep 9th, 2018 at 10:22am
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Hivius, I have an Army and Navy like the one you have pictured. Have you any idea as to who made it? Mine came to me from a good friend many years ago. It has been relined to a K Hornet and has an Alaskan up top. It draws blood often. It is my favorite rifle.
  
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There has been a lot of talk about the round block acting as a wedge on these small ‘02 Webleys.
Must not have bothered Holland & Holland as they did build one in 22 Savage Hi Power!


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gwahir wrote on Sep 9th, 2018 at 10:22am:
Hivius, I have an Army and Navy like the one you have pictured. Have you any idea as to who made it? Mine came to me from a good friend many years ago. It has been relined to a K Hornet and has an Alaskan up top. It draws blood often. It is my favorite rifle.


I am thinking that Webley made this Army & Navy.
Read somewhere that he angle on the barrel just behind the forend was a Webley thing.
  
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Huvirus, thanks for proving background concerning the Army and Navy. I have waited several decades to find someone to whom I could address the question!
  
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Reply #42 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 9:39am
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I love that small frame Snyder, they don't come any better than that.
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I have a very nice W C Pape side lever in 295/250 and my primary reason for posting is to inquire as to whether anybody out there ever see one ?
This is in nice shape but frankly 1/2 the reason I bought it, it was the only one I ever saw or heard about though I am familiar with there shotguns.
  
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Reply #44 - Sep 20th, 2018 at 10:39am
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Can the 250 Rook cartridge be reloaded from modern components?  Is there any brass that might work?
  
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Rifles retailed by Pape turn up all the time here in the UK. We need a picture to identify the maker,
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Old-Win wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 10:39am:
Can the 250 Rook cartridge be reloaded from modern components?  Is there any brass that might work?


Unless I'm reading Barnes incorrectly, base diameter of .22 Hornet brass is awfully close.

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Old-Win wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 10:39am:
Can the 250 Rook cartridge be reloaded from modern components?  Is there any brass that might work?


Unless I'm reading Barnes incorrectly, base diameter of .22 Hornet brass is awfully close.

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The hornet can be made to work, but the rims are too thick.
Buffalo arms occasionally has brass.
The above referenced slugs shoot OK .
  
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Fred Boulton wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 12:22pm:
Rifles retailed by Pape turn up all the time here in the UK. We need a picture to identify the maker,
Fred


It’s a Webley based action.
  
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Could one of the little .250 break open rook rifles with the side lever be safely chambered in .25 Hornet or 25-20 Win SS?  Would the twist rate be OK?
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Old-Win wrote on Sep 24th, 2018 at 9:05am:
Could one of the little .250 break open rook rifles with the side lever be safely chambered in .25 Hornet or 25-20 Win SS?  Would the twist rate be OK?


The American 25  chamberings are .257”-.258” the English 250 is in fact .250” which is why most slugs available are for 25ACP.
  
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the English 250 is in fact .250


Same as the 300 rook is .300
  
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This thread confuses me.(easily done!).
There is more than one 25 calibre in the rook rifle family. The most common one is .297-25, followed by ,255 Jefferies. There are others.
I am assuming that we are talking about .297-25. I shot this calibre for some years using re-formed .22 Hornet brass. Yes, the rims need to be thinned a little but this is easily accomplished. I used a 25 acp bullet mould with 2 grn of Bullseye and the results were good. My dies came from the now defunct North Devon Firearms Services, but C4H do them as well. As obsolete cartridges go, this is an easy one to load for, once the initial investment in tooling is made.
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Reply #53 - Sep 29th, 2018 at 5:47pm
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Fred Boulton wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 4:34am:
This thread confuses me.(easily done!).
There is more than one 25 calibre in the rook rifle family. The most common one is .297-25, followed by ,255 Jefferies. There are others.
I am assuming that we are talking about .297-25. I shot this calibre for some years using re-formed .22 Hornet brass. Yes, the rims need to be thinned a little but this is easily accomplished. I used a 25 acp bullet mould with 2 grn of Bullseye and the results were good. My dies came from the now defunct North Devon Firearms Services, but C4H do them as well. As obsolete cartridges go, this is an easy one to load for, once the initial investment in tooling is made.
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Why confusion? I did not take the question as broadly as you but specifically about the 250 or more properly 297/250 which is the primary one seen in these parts.
While I to have formed a few from Hornet, I sourced some from a custom house in Colorado with a nice, proper head stamp.
  
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Reply #54 - Sep 29th, 2018 at 7:06pm
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Here is my H/H which I have had for a few years now.
The barrel was shot out and it has been relined with a 1 in 9 twist liner and chambered in 5.6x50R by my local gun smith and a bit chopped off the end of the barrel making it just under 23" ( just bought a new Apple and can't find fractions of an inch on it yet)
It has on the underside of the barrel 22LR with proof marks where it had been converted from centre fire and my local gun smith returned it to centre fire. Unless it was made originally as a R/F cannot remember what he said.
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Fred Boulton wrote on Sep 29th, 2018 at 4:34am:
This thread confuses me.(easily done!).
There is more than one 25 calibre in the rook rifle family. The most common one is .297-25, followed by ,255 Jefferies. There are others.
I am assuming that we are talking about .297-25. I shot this calibre for some years using re-formed .22 Hornet brass. Yes, the rims need to be thinned a little but this is easily accomplished. I used a 25 acp bullet mould with 2 grn of Bullseye and the results were good. My dies came from the now defunct North Devon Firearms Services, but C4H do them as well. As obsolete cartridges go, this is an easy one to load for, once the initial investment in tooling is made.
Fred


Yep, you’re right about that. I think I am a little less on the Bullseye, trick seems to be to get it at about 1100 FPS to get my express sights about right.
Made a Little Dipper out of a 22 casing, works pretty good.
  
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In the book Rook & Rabbit Rifle by Colin Greenwood is an advert for Holland & Holland rook rifles which I find intriguing in that it list's that they can be had for the 303 round.
Must be for an entirely different rifle seeing the difference in the price to handle the Brit 303?
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Just finished a book on Rook rifles. Really got the hots for one. The issue is the money exchange rate. It puts them way out of my range. Too bad, they sure look fun.
  

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States rights said he likes took rifles. So do I. I grew up on took rifles. My Uncle took this rifle off of a dead German. Another Uncle took this rifle off a dead Jap.
  

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Nero wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
In the book Rook & Rabbit Rifle by Colin Greenwood is an advert for Holland & Holland rook rifles which I find intriguing in that it list's that they can be had for the 303 round.
Must be for an entirely different rifle seeing the difference in the price to handle the Brit 303?



Yes, those rifles were built to the same (or very similar) pattern but in a larger size.
I once had a Rigby break action that was originally a 303 but rebored to 400/360 - that’s how big the action is.
  
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Given the traditional mode d'emploi of the rook rifle, how does 5.56x50 or .303 fit in?  Did I miss something?
  
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Yes you are absolutely right, not a rook rifle anymore.
Just thought you might like to look at what was a rook rifle.
I have a little martini in 5.6x50R with a 26" barrel but toting one of these around and into hotels can get you some odd looks so when this H/H came along with a shot out barrel I thought just the job to take down and not be noticed. In NZ it is illegal to leave a firearm in a unattended vehicle, not the sort of thing to walk into a restaurant or bank. So of course people do leave firearms in their cars.
The same still applies to the UK I think and remember a top cop having his twelve bore stolen from his car which was a bit embarrassing for him.
Also got dies and cases plus the gunsmith had the reamers and everything from my little BSA Martini.
Here's a couple of better photo's of my couple of 5.6x50R rifles.
Having problems with my new Apple computer and cannot find a way to reduce my photo's. They just come out so very very large. My old seven or eight year old Apple is so much more user friendly.
Will try again tomorrow.
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Another go.
Nope that didn't work either.
You have to right click and open image in new window or move the photo along to see it all.
Couldn't even get the other picture to show in another post.
Will have to get my granddaughter around to sort this out for me.
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Try on my old computer.
Here we go, about the best I can do.
Plus a look at what its all about compared to a 222_223 and the 5.6x50R
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Very charming indeed what is the length of the barrel.
  
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26" for the Martini and the H/H is 22.5"
Still cannot find fractions on my new Apple computer.
All sorts of symbols and other things but no fractions. Have been told to put a / between the numbers to change them to a fraction but that doesn't work either.
On my old computer just go to edit and special characters and there they were.
OK off topic but anybody got any suggestions?
OK solved it myself.
I was told by a friend to try control command and space bar or go into edit to get the character menu up and put in what you are looking for but when I put in fractions nothing showed and then half an hour later I thought computers can be really cranky and just tried fraction and there they were.
It's good having a friend who works with computers. Next job is how to reduce the size of photo's but I don't like to worry him too often.
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No idea, but I can't believe typing "1" then "/" and  "2" doesn't show "1/2" in the text.

These Rook rifles are pretty cool.  Makes me wish we had rooks to shoot at here  Grin
  

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Yes 1/2 does work. but I wanted this ½.
On an Apple you have to drag it into the text.
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Alt 0189 will get you ½.
Hold down the Alt key and 0189.
Think there is still an Alt key on the Apple
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On a Mac, do Control Command space and you will get the emoji picker.  Type 'half' in the search and get this.

It will show up as frequently used after you do it once.

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Nero for pictures I use (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) in the upper drop box choose 640X480 ( message boards ) after you Choose Image, to post the picture that now comes up go down and choose Hot Links for Forums click on it and then simply click on select all and then copy and then paste that link here. This will be how your picture will be posted here now and it's free.
Its easy to use if you have any questions feel free to please ask and you shouldn't have to register to use it but eventually I chose to do so anyway.

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Thanks for that but I got lost halfway through.
Clicked on hot links for forums but could not find select all to click on.
  
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Nero when you get to Hotlinks for Forums right click on your Mouse. It will then be highted in blue and there should then be a drop box. Click on select all and you might have to right click on it again and then select copy and then just past it on our web page. It will then just show the link the picture will come up when you post it.

You might try just clicking on copy and then try to paste it. On my phone I have to do both select all and copy and then paste it.
  
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Thanks for talking me through this but although I did all you said and a menu dropped down there wasn't a mention of select all.
  
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Nero on Hotlinks for Forums try going all the way to the far right and there is blue and white symbol somewhat like a file folder / piece of corner folded paper and try clicking on it and it should say copied and then try pasting it on here.
  
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Did all that tried several times and it did say copied but when I sent it to Photo's or Pictures and last of all to Documents, all to no avail. No photo's just the site.
So thanks again for all your help and will leave it for now until my computer expert friend gets back in the country as I can still use my old computer tp post photo's here.
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Nero after you copied it you just had to paste onto the message you were about to share. And maybe a right a click and then to click on paste. Sure wish you were closer I would be on my way. But I also don't blame you for the frustration in trying.
  
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Just had a glass of Merlot and got the old brain cells working and thought I know where I'm going wrong but when I tried again I was wrong.
Thanks again.
  
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Well I haven't given up yet and will work on it tomorrow. My teachings skills suffer greatly I just need to sit back down at my computer and see if I can somehow improve them so have a glass for me for good luck.
  
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Had another wine and iv'e got there.
Managed eventually to get it into my photo's and then posted it from there.
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Yahoo!!!! Nero and you are very welcome. I believe I failed to realize you were not yet getting to your photos.

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Reply #83 - Feb 18th, 2019 at 9:09pm
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Here’s a better picture of some of my Rooks.

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Westley Richards 1878 patent 320
Bailey Bonehill 360 No.5
W.R. Leeson 360 2-1/4”
Webley 1902
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Reply #84 - Feb 19th, 2019 at 1:49am
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I like them!
  

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Me, too! How about some closeups of the Bailey Bonehill and with the action open. Looks interesting.
  
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Would this have been a Rook rifle before re-barrel to 218 Mashburn Bee ?
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Me, too! How about some closeups of the Bailey Bonehill and with the action open. Looks interesting.



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Thanks! That's very interesting.
  
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