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100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Jul 30th, 2018 at 2:15pm
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Was the front of the receiver marked for model number on a 107,109 the same as was done for the 40-50 series rifles?
  
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #1 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 12:39pm
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I will check this evening when I get home, mine is a late in production s/n 29xx (I think I read some where that they supposedly they ended around ~ s/n 3000).  IIRC I also thought somewhere it was stated that the barrels were marked with the three digit model number, but mine does not have this, just the matching serial numbers.  Unfortunately at some point the barrel on this one was likely shortened down to 30" from something longer and a Remington front sight was added and the rifle also suffers from a crack at the wrist which has been glued and is tight.  One day I need to track down one of the earlier Stevens Vernier sight with the elevation know at the top of the staff and a palm rest that fits but for know i'm still tickled to have it.
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #2 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 1:31pm
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I think in your case they didn't want to take a chance of messing up that pretty receiver Smiley

On mine, the barrel, tang and butt plate have matching serial numbers. Under the forearm the barrel is stamped 107 and also 22. No model number on receiver, but the case hardening can be seen so I think the surface area has not been played with.

Was just curious what was normal.
  
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #3 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 1:42pm
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its possible mine is stamped and I just don't know it as it could be hidden under whomever set the base for the palm rest.   About where is your barrel marked with the model number...(approximate distance from receiver).   

As I said I will look at the front of my receiver when I get home from work and respond, I can't quite see if from this photo I had on my work computer...almost looks like its blank...

I had never checked behind my buttplate for a serial number as I can hear a little rattling from the buttstock.  As I believe the buttstock was partially hollowed out and lead added to balance it out a bit.  I'm curious to get in there and see whats up, but always am running kiddos around instead of getting to play with my guns.... Roll Eyes  daw gone it.. Wink  I need to get my priorities straight...
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #4 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 1:48pm
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Almost where it turns from octagon to round, maybe 1" from the front of the forearm.
  
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #5 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 1:51pm
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Don't seem to run into to many of them....that's for sure..
Does yours have the two line APR.17.94 patent date roll stamp on the top flat of the barrel?
  
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #6 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 2:07pm
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Yes, but sadly i'm pretty sure it was re-barreled at some point. Chambered in 25-21.
  
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #7 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 2:14pm
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not re-barreled but rebored?   block switched to a CF
Btw nothing to be sad about if it shoots!..
  
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #8 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 2:21pm
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The chamber marking is correct on the barrel and there is no evidence that a previous marking was removed. Serial #223?. I think is too early for the chambering, but don't know when it first appeared or how late the model was sold.

  
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #9 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 2:47pm
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Sorry, I miss interpreted your early post regarding the barrel marking of 22.  I was thinking you were referring to a caliber marking.   It is an earlier serial number and the .25-21 was supposedly brought to live in 1897.     For some reason I was thinking the 107, 108 and 109 went from 95 to 98?  which would work your chambering.. but I'm starting to forget more than I remember.....and those dates may just be wrapped around advertising, which can be misleading..

I think I recall that uscra112 and peterson2520ss had quite a bit of knowledge about Stevens serial numbers.
Bill Lawrence AC Gould and Joel black and several other folks on here that are way more knowledgeable than me when it comes to Stevens rifles...

I'm eager for a photo or two..  Smiley  Good speaking with you.
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #10 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 3:14pm
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I'll try to  post the barrel marking tonight, but yes the 22 I was referring to is under the forearm.

Shoots reasonably well, but have not worked with it enough. Some bullets came with it and they were too small .2565.

Tried some .258 65 grain and the groups tightened up considerably.
  
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #11 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 3:39pm
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Dellet states that his rifle's barrel, receiver tang, and buttplate have matching serial numbers.  If that number is the stated "223", Dellet's rifle was likely made in 1894, several years too early for an original chambering in .25-21, which was indeed introduced in 1897.

Hum-m-m-m!  As Miss Clavel would say, "Something is not right!"

And if "107" is the model number of Dellet's rifle, what's the barrel's accompanying "22" stamp?

This is what comes of having held several 100-series Stevens in my hot little hands but never owning one.

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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #12 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 3:42pm
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oodmoff wrote on Jul 31st, 2018 at 2:47pm:
For some reason I was thinking the 107, 108 and 109 went from 95 to 98? 


The "accepted" date for transition to the 2-digit numbers is 1896.

Looks like a #4 wt. brl. on that gun, so it's not hard to imagine why the brl. was abbreviated, & weight added to the buttstock!
  
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #13 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 3:46pm
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I'm slow today or cant read or both...  I got confused when he said the chambering mark is correct on the bottom after stating that it was chambered in .25-21  which from some reason led me to believe the gun had a .25-21 marking as well.    I was making it harder than it is...

thanks redsetter for setting me straight.  I need to adhere to that if you don't recall correctly don't post rule.
  
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Re: 100 series Model 44's receiver markings?
Reply #14 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 4:09pm
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And just to keep us all on our toes, including Redsetter, the very big barrel and the rattling buttstock are of oodmoff's rifle.

Also, Dellet's rifle is the one with the .25-21 chambering and the matching stamp on the barrel with every sign of being original.

Last, Dellet mentions two numbers, "22" and "223".  Which, if either, is the serial number he notes is stamped in three places?

I swear I'm getting too old to participate in these kinds of convoluted conversations.

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