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Where did the good metal files go?
Sep 13th, 2018 at 8:37pm
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I was contemplating getting into some draw filing action (did some in 97?) and I came across posts with the Nicholson files... Ah yes, good American steel... and then I see that production moved to Mexico and / or Brazil around 2006... Grobet used to be Swiss, now Red Chinese...

Is there any non Red Chinee / Indian / Mexican files around any more? That actually are well made?
  
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Re: Where did the good metal files go?
Reply #1 - Sep 13th, 2018 at 10:53pm
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Not the type of file you're looking for but I found these on the close out table at Johnston Industrial Supply Co. here in Fresno, CA. $3.00 each.

Grainger has some old stock files too at fair prices.

Good old stock USA files are out there, it's just a matter of finding them.



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Re: Where did the good metal files go?
Reply #2 - Sep 13th, 2018 at 11:44pm
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The very best set of files I ever owned were made in India. Took me twenty years to wear them out.  Have had very few bad files ever.



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Reply #3 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 8:57am
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My current Nicholson lathe (draw) files are as good as any I've bought since my first in 1992.
  
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Re: Where did the good metal files go?
Reply #4 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 11:33am
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I haven't purchased a new file in decades. But I always look at garage or estate sales for old files that are still sharp. I've found a lot of nice old files for anywhere from .10 cents to .50 cents each at these sales. Tough to not buy them, even though I don't need more at those prices.
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 2:11pm
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Over 100 files on the bench. Some ground for specific jobs.
Some new, some over 50 years old.
Some work better than others, but age does not seem to matter.
Good brands seem to improve the chances.
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Reply #6 - Sep 14th, 2018 at 3:25pm
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Good quality files are out there but no typically found at your local hardware store based on my own experience. They seem to be of a lesser quality than those I have picked up from Enco all though of the same brand?
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 5:58pm
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Warrensville File & Knife

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American made, european, and import.

Might just be a dealer, can't tell...

"Warrensville File provides both American and Swiss pattern files. You can choose from two different qualities of American Pattern Files: standard and North American made."
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:07pm
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Pferd make a good file....as far as i know they are european.
  
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"The goal at our six production facilities worldwide"

Oh please, please, please don't include various third world countries...

I have not found anything specific yet...

Last hope is Bahco out of Portugal, formerly from Sweden, I think...
  
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Reply #10 - Sep 15th, 2018 at 7:55pm
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Snap-On Industrial Brands

Made in Portugal

Bahco was acquired by Snap-On?

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I wonder how long Bahco files stay well made? Snap-On is changing with the times, and they don't have the ability to sell high like they did...
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Reply #11 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 4:26pm
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Send them to Boggs in LA and they will come back sharper than they were when they were new.  Can't remember the exact name of the outfit, but will post when I find the card or ask the wife.  She sent her good Grobets and they are wonderfully sharp.  Didn't believe it until we went to the "shop" and met Mr. Boggs.  Steam driven abrasive process invented by his grandfather
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 16th, 2018 at 11:24pm
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It is simple to sharpen files, been doing it for years. Get some ABS tubing  about 2 inch D and an end cap,tubing just long enough so that with the cap glued on and upright the teeth on the longest file are about 1 inch below top.Clean your files well and make sure there is not any oil on them, stand them in the tube[I made a wooden base to hold tubing ] and fill with Muriatic acid. leave them in acid for maybe 1/2 to one hour. Wash well with water  and maybe give light coat of WD40 to prevent rust.Paul.
  
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Re: Where did the good metal files go?
Reply #13 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:09am
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Good thought, Paul.
Have used diluted nitric acid for rifflers, nasty stuff.
Muriatic acid is less nasty and more readily available.
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Re: Where did the good metal files go?
Reply #14 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 7:32pm
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Check out the American Longrifles site.  There is a thread on restoring files by soaking in white vinegar (and some other similar preparations.).  I have a few Iím going to treat before my next project, and see what happens. Looks interesting.
  

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