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oldman46 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 317 Joined: Sep 21^st, 2016	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Oct 11^th, 2018 at 11:56pm	Print Post
	There is/was a 35 caliber cartridge made up by necking up the 30-30 cartridge case. Don't recall if it had any special name for it. Someone here could give further help as that's as far as I can go. Frank


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6909 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #1 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 3:06am	Print Post
	If you want a BP cartridge and/or want to shoot in the "Tradition" class, the 35/40 Maynard, of course. But, if you want a modern wildcat, I'd go with the other Frank and use the 35-30/30. Much easier to find brass! 30/40 brass for the 35 Rem rimmed, is getting expensive and hard to find. Frank

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GrumpyBear Full Member Offline Posts: 133 Location: Western,Pa. Joined: Sep 30^th, 2017	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #2 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 5:20am	Print Post
	oldman46 wrote on Oct 11^th, 2018 at 11:56pm: There is/was a 35 caliber cartridge made up by necking up the 30-30 cartridge case. Don't recall if it had any special name for it. Someone here could give further help as that's as far as I can go. Frank A couple of versions I believe out there, if you look at CH4D die choices. This would be my "vote" no particular reason other than I just acquired a Pedersoli Rolling Block in this caliber. Hoping to shoot heavy for caliber cast in it, no time for load development right now though, elk season is on the horizon. I have a friend who shoots the Maynard I believe, I'll see if I can get him to weigh in.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 12936 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #3 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 10:02am	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Oct 12^th, 2018 at 3:06am: If you want a BP cartridge and/or want to shoot in the "Tradition" class, the 35/40 Maynard, of course. But, if you want a modern wildcat, I'd go with the other Frank and use the 35-30/30. Much easier to find brass! 30/40 brass for the 35 Rem rimmed, is getting expensive and hard to find. Frank Pretty sure you can make the .35 Rimmed from cheap and plentiful .303 British brass.

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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 507 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #4 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 10:27am	Print Post
	Good looking case on the right Joe.......

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GrumpyBear Full Member Offline Posts: 133 Location: Western,Pa. Joined: Sep 30^th, 2017	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #5 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 10:35am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Oct 12^th, 2018 at 10:16am: 35-30-30, No. .35 Rem rimmed or 35-40 Maynard. Only two choices. 35 Remington rimmed a modern wildcat? Don't think so. Not listed far as I know. Joe. I was referring to the 35/30-30 Joe. I understand now, not in the running. Sorry.

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kkid66 Full Member Offline Posts: 186 Location: central tx Joined: Jun 4^th, 2014	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #6 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 10:51am	Print Post
	Are you shooting smokeless and what weight bullet? My 35-40 with 1 1/2 swiss and 360 grain bullet is picky. The 10 twist bbl needed for the long bullet makes my gun torque a lot. Brass is from 38-55 ww. I have made a breech seater but not used it yet.


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jeffer1942 ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Target Sales Offline Posts: 248 Location: Chicago North suburb Joined: May 31^st, 2004	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #7 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 11:21am	Print Post
	Just noticed that the neck on the right cartridge is not square. Jeff


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2420 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #8 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 12:57pm	Print Post
	Joe, don't know how it would be a 300 grainer but my friend does very well in BPCR with a 35-40 with 360 grainers and a fast twist. Heck, that ultra long bullet is halfway to the targets before you shoot.


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1285 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #9 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 1:41pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Oct 11^th, 2018 at 11:17pm: .35 Remington rimmed or 35-40 Maynard? Breech seated, fixed or both. Joe. If I had your money and time BOTH! a brace of guns - that way you wouldn't have to choose! The only choosing you'd have to do is which target/match for which gun. How's that for help? That's the answers I get when I ask my support group Otherwise, the Maynard for simplicity and nostalgic reasons. Greg

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1285 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #10 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 3:14pm	Print Post
	As good of a job as you did on the mystery Ballard, making switch barrels for it would be great idea! Are you using one of Ron's barrels? in a left hand gain? (may help with the mentioned torque) I may need another project to start and I should have an action with an undecided caliber ready by the semester's end, let me know specifics. Regards, Greg

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2983 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #11 - Oct 12^th, 2018 at 10:38pm	Print Post
	Are you forming from .303? The .35 Rem has the same base diameter as .30-40 Krag. I've thought hard about making one myself. So I choose the .35R Remington.

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2983 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #12 - Oct 13^th, 2018 at 5:28am	Print Post
	When I first got into cast bullet shooting, it was using my Dad's Marlin 336 deer rifle. Looking back now there were many things I should have tried but didn't know about. But the .35 Rem case capacity still seems right for the 358315 mould I inherited with the rifle, when using 4198 and 4895. Hunting loads, of course, not Schuetzen. That was 30 years ago, and before I became obsessed with single-shots.

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oldman46 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 317 Joined: Sep 21^st, 2016	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #13 - Oct 14^th, 2018 at 12:58am	Print Post
	30-30 would make a great cartridge case for the 35 rimmed. I seem to remember the name 35-30r Rose. Seasonal ability with the Winchester brass do not know about the Remington. For 303 British cases most American made for 303B have undersized case bodies where the body meets the solid case head area. Greek HXP and Monarch PPU made in Serbia do not show the case bulges so common to U.S. made brass and ammo. I've fired both if the above in my 1947 Fazakerly #4 MKII and no case bulges. Only one unscientific test though. So am thinking that there cases are made to spec and probably thicker brass.Frank


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2983 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Which casing/cartridge? Reply #14 - Oct 14^th, 2018 at 5:00pm	Print Post
	Obviously you'll also need a .35 throater if you're gonna use that bullet in the Rem case. That'll be a key factor. The throat's gonna have to be tight, to keep the bullet lined up.

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