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Mar 5th, 2019 at 6:46pm
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My Dad had this in the 70's, later it hung in his garage.  Now it's in my office.  I thought it was cool even when I was a teenager.
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Reply #1 - Mar 5th, 2019 at 8:02pm
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I think the "Rem-UMC" trademark was replaced by Rem Arms about 1935.  Wonderful piece, & I'm glad to hear it got moved out of the garage!
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 6th, 2019 at 12:45am
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Specifically that box marking and colors would date to 1930-33.

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Reply #3 - Mar 6th, 2019 at 12:15pm
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It could also be a 1926-1929 box (same source as Vall's).  Unfortunately, the only easy way to tell is by the form and location of the load index numbers, which the poster artist, of course, did not bother with.  Therefore, since so far I've not been able to find out when Remington started using the term "Hi-Speed", the safest thing to say is "circa 1930".

In any case, a very nice die-cut!

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Here is a tin Ithaca 10 1/4" X 17 1/4" advertisment that I have on the wall in the shop. Got it years ago from an Antique store and not sure if it's an original or not. 

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Reply #5 - Mar 6th, 2019 at 2:53pm
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JLouis wrote on Mar 6th, 2019 at 12:46pm:
Got it years ago from an Antique store and not sure if it's an original or not. 


Most of these metal signs are repros, & since some have by now been around over 40 yrs, they're even beginning to acquire the look of "age." 

  
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Bill Lawrence wrote on Mar 6th, 2019 at 12:15pm:
Therefore, since so far I've not been able to find out when Remington started using the term "Hi-Speed", the safest thing to say is "circa 1930".


Don't know about Rem, but Peters began advertising their HV in June of '31.   
  
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Bill Lawrence wrote on Mar 6th, 2019 at 12:15pm:
It could also be a 1926-1929 box (same source as Vall's).  Unfortunately, the only easy way to tell is by the form and location of the load index numbers, which the poster artist, of course, did not bother with.  Therefore, since so far I've not been able to find out when Remington started using the term "Hi-Speed", the safest thing to say is "circa 1930".

In any case, a very nice die-cut!

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Remington came out with the "Hi-Speed" name about 1929-30, so I'd guess this is likely around that 1929-30 date for the ad.

Remington and others switch to high speed ammo caused some issues. Marlin's model 39 lever action had a somewhat weak bolt that never was an issue with previous ammo. But with the advent of high speed ammo they started getting complaints of cracked breech bolts on the diminutive 39 Marlin.  They redesigned the bolt for more strength, and added a "HS" prefix to the serial number of guns made from 1931 forward. They also replaced any cracked bolts with the upgraded HS bolts when people sent them in for repair.
  

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Reply #8 - Mar 7th, 2019 at 4:11am
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marlinguy wrote on Mar 6th, 2019 at 7:02pm:
Bill Lawrence wrote on Mar 6th, 2019 at 12:15pm:
It could also be a 1926-1929 box (same source as Vall's).  Unfortunately, the only easy way to tell is by the form and location of the load index numbers, which the poster artist, of course, did not bother with.  Therefore, since so far I've not been able to find out when Remington started using the term "Hi-Speed", the safest thing to say is "circa 1930".

In any case, a very nice die-cut!

Bill Lawrence


Remington came out with the "Hi-Speed" name about 1929-30, so I'd guess this is likely around that 1929-30 date for the ad.

Remington and others switch to high speed ammo caused some issues. Marlin's model 39 lever action had a somewhat weak bolt that never was an issue with previous ammo. But with the advent of high speed ammo they started getting complaints of cracked breech bolts on the diminutive 39 Marlin.  They redesigned the bolt for more strength, and added a "HS" prefix to the serial number of guns made from 1931 forward. They also replaced any cracked bolts with the upgraded HS bolts when people sent them in for repair.


Vall,

The 1910 UMC Remington Arms catalog uses the phrase " High Velocity " in reference to some centerfire cartridges.

The 1923 Remington Arms catalog No. 107 uses both the phrases " High Velocity " and " Hi-Speed " in reference to some centerfire cartridges, but has not yet applied it to rimfire cartridges.
  

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Thanks BP. My info says the Hi Speed .22 ammo wasn't introduced until the late 1920's. But I'm always open to more data.
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 7th, 2019 at 8:22pm
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So what is the vintage of these?
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 8th, 2019 at 12:27pm
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Dupont purchased Remington during the Depression, so all Dupont marked ammo is post Depression. Then they purchased Peters in 1934. But that box looks like post WWII to me. Maybe late 40's or 50's?
  

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