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H. Speeman in Neuss Schuetzen in 8.15x46R
Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:08am
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So when you have WAY too many project guns already on the go and not enough time to get to them all what do you do?† WELL ... YOU BUY ANOTHER GUN OF COURSE!

My latest acquisition is a German Schuetzen Martini in 8.15x46R marked "H. Speeman in Neuss".† (Does anyone have any information on Herr Speeman that they could share?)† The barrel is beautifully contoured and the stock fits me like a glove.† The good news is that the seller supplied it with some of his ammo (reformed from .30-30 cases) so I'm taking my brother in law out to the range on Friday and we'll test fire it.† Can anyone make out the initials in script on the rifle?† (Which I would suspect are the initials of the original owner.)

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« Last Edit: Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:13am by Reverend Al »  

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Must have exceeded the limit ... it wouldn't add the script plate on the first post ...

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Reverend Al wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:14am:
Must have exceeded the limit ... it wouldn't add the script plate on the first post ...

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I'd say either FP or TP




  
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Reply #3 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 9:17am
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Very nice rifle. The German Schuetzen rifles are still the best bang for your buck out there, especially when you find one that fits you.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 10:16am
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I can't say as I've ever seen a tang sight like that one before on any schuetzen rifle? Very different from the usual type I've seen.
  

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Reply #5 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 10:37am
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I think they are pseudo-initials - i.e., an initial-like design to fill a space where initials usually go.  I've seen similar executions on pocket watch cases.

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Looks like FP or PF to me.
  

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Reply #7 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 1:06pm
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Two nice ones today. How wide is your sight rail?
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 1:13pm
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Beautiful Rifle with an amazing amount of Charm that just cannot be denied. Congratulations it appears to be in remarkably good shape and very well taken care of over the years.
  
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oneatatime wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 1:06pm:
Two nice ones today. How wide is your sight rail?


I'll have to measure it and get back to you ...
  

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Looking at it again, is that another one of those take down barrels? By golly it is. The same action as the "Stylish" post. How rare is that!
  
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It appears to be the same action as the "Stylish" Schuetzen ... just not as nicely embellished.  Does anyone have any information on these actions?
  

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Reply #12 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 6:14pm
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Al, If you keep going like you are, it won't be any time at all that you will need another gun safe !!!!  Dale.
  

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Reply #13 - Mar 14th, 2019 at 6:18pm
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oneatatime wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 1:22pm:
Looking at it again, is that another one of those take down barrels? By golly it is. The same action as the "Stylish" post. How rare is that!


     The first German schuetzen rifle I owned (60 years ago) was one with a takedown mechanism like that.   I later made a 22RF bbl for it that shot very well.  It was an Austrian rifle.

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I haven't attempted to take this rifle apart yet.  What is the proceedure?
  

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DWT1885 wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 6:14pm:
Al, If you keep going like you are, it won't be any time at all that you will need another gun safe !!!!† Dale.


I have 4 gun safes already and they're getting very full!

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Well, it made it's first trip out to the range today and shot some of the ammo supplied by the previous owner at 100 yards.† The shots that are low are "Oh Damn!" shots ... this rifle has the lightest double set triggers that I've ever owned!† I've never had to re-set triggers any heavier, just lighter.† This will likely be the first ones I've set heavier than when I got the rifle.

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Reply #17 - Mar 30th, 2019 at 6:02pm
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Having a good look through Vol.2 Alte Sheissenwaffen, you can see the similarities to the "Stahl Martini" p164. This rifle and my "stylish" are utilising the Meffert take down system.
  
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Reverend Al wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 8:07pm:
I haven't attempted to take this rifle apart yet.† What is the proceedure?


AL:
     Open the action, swing the fore-end underlever to the side, and lift the bbl out.

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Reply #19 - Mar 30th, 2019 at 10:28pm
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I generally remove the block pin, then the block, move the lever to the side & remove the barrel. I donít know if it necessary to remove the block, that is just the way I do it. Mine is Austrian, massive, weighing 15lb 4oz. It is marked Franz Sodia.
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rgchristensen wrote on Mar 30th, 2019 at 6:53pm:
Reverend Al wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 8:07pm:
I haven't attempted to take this rifle apart yet.† What is the proceedure?


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† †† Open the action, swing the fore-end underlever to the side, and lift the bbl out.

CHRIS


OK, many thanks for the info ... I'll give that a try ...
  

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