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Hepburn receiver finishes
Mar 20th, 2019 at 4:45pm
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Does anyone know if Remington Hepburn receivers and trigger guards were nickel plated from the factory?

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Re: Hepburn receiver finishes
Reply #1 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 5:26pm
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My Rem Hep has a case hardened receiver
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Reply #2 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 6:03pm
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As beltfed notes, the majority of Hepburn receivers were case-hardened in color.

That being said, since you could get what you paid for then and since plating was a factory option for other Remington guns, I'm sure the Hepburn could be special ordered with nickeled parts.  Whether any actually were, however, requires the knowledge of our Hepburn experts, perhaps aided by Tom Rowe's Hepburn book.

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Reply #3 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 6:17pm
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Sometimes a case hardened receiver can fade to where it looks just like nickel.  I had a highwall that looked that way.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:12pm
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Never seen a nickeled Hepburn receiver, and Rowe's book only shows one and it's described as "re-nickeled". Not sure if that means nickeled afterwards, or nickel done over after it went bad? It's an engraved one, and is on page 202.
But there are thousands I haven't seen, so I suppose there is possibly an original nickel receiver out there somewhere.
  

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Reply #5 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:19am
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If you are looking at the one on Gunbroker It does not look like a factory job and the barrel looks like a modern replacement .
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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:05am
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Dales wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:19am:
If you are looking at the one on Gunbroker It does not look like a factory job and the barrel looks like a modern replacement .
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Not only not factory, but not well done. They nickeled all the screws, which Remington would likely have left them blued. And I wonder if the seller just stuffed that front sight on it? It's way off center to the left, and appears to be a last minute install.
  

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Reply #7 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:21am
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when the research was being done for the hepburn book.i knew and had seen 3 and there was 1 more known, so 3 or maybe 4.2 were engraved 1 was a very nice finished special order not sure of the 4th.very rare    tony <><
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 4:16pm
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I was looking at the Hepburn on Gun Broker.
"REMINGTON HEPBURN No. 3 38 55 WIN CUSTOM GUN"
I sent the seller an email asking the distance between the scope blocks---length of pull and the condition of the set triggers.
The seller responded:
7.25 inches on the scope blocks
Length of pull 13.25 to front trigger
Set triggers function perfectly

I already have a Hepburn in 32-40 but once you get the Hepburn bug............

I think I will pass on it but if the hammer price is low enough it should make a good shooter for someone.

I also noticed that the rear sight appears to have been repaired at some point.

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Reply #9 - Mar 21st, 2019 at 8:35pm
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I noticed what looked like some welding on the base of the staff too. Wasn't sure if it was a repair, or if the staff was shortened?
Not sure whose tang sight it is either, but not a Remington. Maybe a Lee Shaver? If so he had some issues early on with soft solder and staffs came off. I bought one with the staff broken off for cheap, and sent it to him to be fixed. He silver soldered it on, and can't tell it was ever broken now.
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 8:05am
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I looked at the pics in the GB listing and to my old eyes the receiver looked to be in the white. Reminds me of two Ballards that I have. The case coloring is gone, leaving a silvery, almost nickel plated appearance. Could the case coloring have been polished off ?
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 9:22am
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The receiver and the buttplate finish match and to me have the even matte look of an electroless nickel coating.  For contrast, compare the buttplate on the subject's rifle to that of the $6500 Hepburn that's also on gunbroker, the latter almost surely being factory.

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Reply #12 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 11:01am
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I have had a few casehardened receivers that had turned that "nickel" look with age, but none looked like that Hepburn. I think the Hepburn is truly a nickel plate, but I'm still unsure it's original to the gun.
Hope someone like Tony who has seen these could comment on the nickel, and the nickel plated screws? The finish just looks somewhat flat compared to nickeled guns I've seen from that era.
  

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Re: Hepburn receiver finishes
Reply #13 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 1:02pm
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Could the finish be Metaloy Hard Chrome plating? Similar to this pistol.
  

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Reply #14 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 3:34pm
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Sure does look a lot like that hard chromed pistol!
  

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Reply #15 - May 1st, 2019 at 12:15am
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New to the forum here. Dont know if this helps any but these are some pics of my great grandads Hepburn in 38-55 that he used for bear hunting around Glenwood spring Colorado in the 1890's until his death in the 1930's.
  
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