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Was a 44 1/2... 22WRF Now a 28-30
Mar 22nd, 2019 at 6:35pm
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Remember the 28-30 stubbed barrel that I was going to have CPA re-cut the threads to fit their 44 1/2's?
Well, I took a long swig of Maker's Make and bit the bullet
The barrel now sits in an original 44 1/2 Stevens action & stock, about 90-95% NRA grade. The original is a 22WRF (Not listed in Blue Book), not a 22LR - 28"(not listed in Blue Book) number 2 barrel which is also another caliber I don't have.
* Baldwin vernier is out of my inventory
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* Left side of the action has a "U" in a circle
* German style Schutzen but plate
* 121XX production birth date
As you can see from the video, the wood has next to zero marks and the action CC is vivid & complete. Gail at CPA is going to cut a new #2 forearm for the new .. "Stubby"
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Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 8:11pm
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John unfortunatly the Link did not work for me do you happen to have a picture of the rifle that you can post here.
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 8:42pm
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Link required that I turn off part of my firewall, and when (with some trepidation) I did that it demanded that I create a Google account. Won't go there.   Sad.  I'd love to see what you've built, John Boy
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 8:57pm
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Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 9:10pm
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This is a pic of a Stevens Favorite in 22-7 which is the same as 22 WRF, and Remington called it "22 Remington Special." ?Quien Sabe?
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 10:26pm
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Aah, that's nice!
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 10:27pm
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Thank you John & Bob both are very interesting and very Charming!
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 11:27pm
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Just because I'm brave enough to ask dumb questions, is the .22-71/2 (or .22 WRF) the most "potent" cartridge that Stevens chambered their Favorites for?

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Reply #8 - Mar 23rd, 2019 at 3:37am
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A couple of 94' Favorites had centerfire breech blocks, and were chambered in 22-15 SS.
Stevens may have figured out it wasn't the brightest idea to have done so.
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 23rd, 2019 at 9:01am
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Stevens made for the UK market 1894's in rook calibers that were center fire
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 23rd, 2019 at 1:48pm
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.22-15 would be the #55 Lady Model, which Grant says was "unquestionably on the Favorite frame".  In 1900 catalog they also listed .25-20, .25-21, and .25-25 as being optional for the #55, but I won't believe that the #55 in that time was on the Favorite frame.  I won't!

Were the rook caliber rifles ever catalogued anywhere? 
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 23rd, 2019 at 4:57pm
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uscra112 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 1:48pm:
.22-15 would be the #55 Lady Model, which Grant says was "unquestionably on the Favorite frame". In 1900 catalog they also listed .25-20, .25-21, and .25-25 as being optional for the #55, but I won't believe that the #55 in that time was on the Favorite frame. I won't!

Were the rook caliber rifles ever catalogued anywhere?

Phil,
The couple I ran across chambered in 22-15 SS were plain jane 1894 Favorites, not #55 Lady Model's.
  

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Reply #12 - Mar 23rd, 2019 at 5:22pm
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uscra112 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 1:48pm:
.22-15 would be the #55 Lady Model, which Grant says was "unquestionably on the Favorite frame". In 1900 catalog they also listed .25-20, .25-21, and .25-25 as being optional for the #55, but I won't believe that the #55 in that time was on the Favorite frame. I won't!


By catalog 51 (1902, I think), they'd changed their minds, listing only .22-15, for $2 extra. Wouldn't at all be surprised if listing the larger cartridges was the result of some miscommunication between the engineering & ad depts. The standard wt. listed for the #55 was 5 lbs, so that's "unquestionably" a Favorite action; lightest 44 was 7 lbs.
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 23rd, 2019 at 9:27pm
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Interesting conversation on Favorites.  At various times, Stevens claimed that they were in rim fire only.  The calibers in order of present day survival numbers are 22, 32L, 25, 32 shot, 22 shot, and very rarely, 22-7&1/2-45 (WRF), all in rim fire.  The WRF is quite rare, in recording well over 500 "serial numbers", have seen only 2, and one loose barrel.  I cant count them in my study as I do not have serial numbers.  I found one 1915 which was re-barreled in 22 WRF- cant count that one either.  The above one is the only original 1894 in WRF I have noted, nice one.  I would be eager to find an original center fire.  (I had a 32RF converted to 32 long Colt by Curt Hardcastle in Silver City NM a while back.)

22s probably were more numerous, but the ammo was cheaper, and they ended up in the pickup floorboard with corrosive primers, and they were used up, most likely when, I suspect the other calibers were treated like "real guns" and cleaned.

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Reply #14 - Mar 23rd, 2019 at 10:38pm
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As Favorites, I don't see any catalog listing any centerfire, ever, but as mentioned the Model 55 was offered in 22-15-60 at least. Since the requisite parts were being made, who's to say that a few Favorites didn't acquire some.

Now I'm off to find my breech-thrust calculator to see how a .25-20 would compare with a .32 Long RF. Maybe I can justify a .25-20 barrel for the 1915 I converted. Shocked

------------------- I'm back.

A 1400 fps load of in the .25-20 case with an 86 grain bullet would be more than double the thrust of .22 Standard Velocity. Nope. Ain't gonna try it. Even with some serious re-inforcement of the breechblock support, I ain't gonna try it.
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