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Re: 1873 Sharps 50 Bull Barrel
Reply #30 - May 6th, 2019 at 8:29pm
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Schuetzenmiester wrote on May 6th, 2019 at 12:14pm:
...This is a perfect example of why many people do not participate in these forums.

Seemed, past tense, to be an interesting project. Is perfection a one way street?
  
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Re: 1873 Sharps 90 Bull Barrel
Reply #31 - May 8th, 2019 at 2:02pm
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The 1873 Sharps 50 caliber rifle was for sale for many years with the rest of the 400 rifle collection from Fort Whoop Up.
390 of the rifles were purchased by collectors; but 10 rifles were of poor quality and were never purchased by collectors, instead they were given to the seller's brother.

I posted this rifle on a Sharps forum as well as this forum but only mentioned it had been cleaned on this forum to see the response.

It is interesting no one on the Sharps forum complained about its condition.

If the rifle had lot's of collector value why did it not sell to any collector over the years for any price when it had red rust all over it.

Actually the MARKET already declared it's lack of value to the collectors when it was for sale for numerous years.

Now the present owner is not embarrassed to bring the rifle out of the closet and go shoot it.
The present owner already understood it had little collector value and that arguments by arrogant collectors that it would destroy its value were meaningless.

So if you have a rifle with red rust on it; I do suggest you carefully clean it to stabilize it to prevent further deterioration of the rifle.

But agreed if it has a natural black patina from natural rust bluing; please do not try to clean it.
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Re: 1873 Sharps 90 Bull Barrel
Reply #32 - May 8th, 2019 at 8:30pm
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Dave could you please link the sharps collectors site ? This arrogant collector would like to see the discussion for his own "education"

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Re: 1873 Sharps 90 Bull Barrel
Reply #33 - May 8th, 2019 at 9:46pm
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It is on the Shiloh Sharps site - and it is linked there to this post.

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Why? You want to go over there and complain too.
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Re: 1873 Sharps 90 Bull Barrel
Reply #34 - May 8th, 2019 at 9:59pm
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Hi Dave- no i am seriously just curious. If im wrong im happy to say so. From the "discussion" over there it doesnt sound like there were any actual opinions or actual discussion. This isnt a personal attack man. I simply expressed my opinion. I buy a fair number of sharps. I look at a fair number of sharps and I see a lot of sharps bought and sold. My opinion is based on those experiences. If there is other information or discussion that actually is robust and refutes my opinions i am happy to weigh those objectively otherwise this thread has gone on too long in this direction with me admittedly to blame in large part
  
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Re: 1873 Sharps 90 Bull Barrel
Reply #35 - May 11th, 2019 at 8:41pm
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Let’s see. A halfway decent Sharps rifle is given to the “grandkids” say eighty years ago or so, and ends up in a leaky barn or wood shed. Today, it is brown and rusted up. It is still worth “thousands of dollars” to a collector? Really?  Huh
  
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Re: 1873 Sharps 90 Bull Barrel
Reply #36 - May 12th, 2019 at 8:59am
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rollingblock wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 8:41pm:
Let’s see. A halfway decent Sharps rifle is given to the “grandkids” say eighty years ago or so, and ends up in a leaky barn or wood shed. Today, it is brown and rusted up. It is still worth “thousands of dollars” to a collector? Really?  Huh


Yes, really! This phenomenon seems to be pretty common among old sidehammer Sharps sporting rifles. Of course they're worth more if kept in nice shape, but even rusty they bring thousands of dollars regularly.
  

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Re: 1873 Sharps 90 Bull Barrel
Reply #37 - May 12th, 2019 at 9:30am
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So why did the collectors refuse to buy this rusty one at any price when it was on the Canadian market for numerous years?

Are the rusty items the collectors value in the US because of the market for Civil War relics?

Sorry it appears the collectors in Canada do not value rusty old Sharps that way.

The MARKET has already confirmed it.
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Re: 1873 Sharps 90 Bull Barrel
Reply #38 - May 12th, 2019 at 12:52pm
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I guess since the meat-n-taters of the thread are gone, this is only about the opinion of the definition of rust. Folks can do anything they want to their rifles in my opinion. The thing that makes me pause a bit, sometimes cringe, is if steel wool is taken to an antique. Yup, there could be a place for it, but it's probably taking a little bit of good stuff along with the bad.
  
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Re: 1873 Sharps 90 Bull Barrel
Reply #39 - May 12th, 2019 at 1:18pm
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Yeah, rusty old Sharps always bring more than rusty old rolling blocks, except, there was this dug up 50-70 one out of Montana with the initials GAC on it.......
  
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Re: 1873 Sharps 90 Bull Barrel
Reply #40 - May 13th, 2019 at 10:30pm
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I have noticed there is a POLL with no question at the beginning of this thread.

Is there a photo of the rifle being discussed in this thread?

Kind of confused. Am I missing something?

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