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Stevens 44 1/2
May 6th, 2019 at 3:52pm
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Can anyone tell me what # this 44 1/2 is 49,52 excetra.
And will it be stamped in front of action if I remove forend.

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Re: Stevens 44 1/2
Reply #1 - May 6th, 2019 at 4:07pm
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It is a very nice rifle!!! And yes, it should be stamped behind the forearm.

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Reply #2 - May 7th, 2019 at 8:48pm
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So I decided to take 2 screw  forend off and and found this on the barrel. Could it be a pope? And what does the R8 mean?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Reply #4 - May 7th, 2019 at 9:54pm
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First, the model number of this exceptionally preserved rifle should be stamped on the front of the receiver.

Next, I would certainly like to think that "H M P" stands for "Harry Melville Pope".  BUT that's not how Harry normally marked his barrels, even when he worked for Stevens, and then the barrel would normally be stamped "Stevens Pope" on a top flat, along with other company information.

Last, I don't know what "R8" means, although since I'm wild-ass guessing anyway, how about the 8th barrel rifled by Fred Ross, Pope's assistant and successor at Stevens?

In any case, it appears to be a "Wow-WOW!" rifle.

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Re: Stevens 44 1/2
Reply #5 - May 7th, 2019 at 11:30pm
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R8 May indicate Right hand twist 8 groove......
If I remember correctly I read something to that effect many yrs ago...
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Reply #6 - May 8th, 2019 at 9:07am
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Thanks for the replies as I'm not firmiliar on how harry
Marked his barrels.

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Reply #7 - May 8th, 2019 at 12:22pm
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This is stamping on my Stevens 52
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Reply #8 - May 8th, 2019 at 12:32pm
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Dales do you have any idea what these stamping mean?

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Reply #9 - May 8th, 2019 at 3:47pm
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I have no idea what it means .  Possibly Ross but I do not know . At one point I thought it might be because my rifle had been to England and back and although the proof house did not proof the rifle they did inspect it . But more likely Stevens markings ???
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Reply #10 - May 8th, 2019 at 9:23pm
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Slugged the barrel today and it is 8 groove with a right hand twist
So r8 makes sense, but why does dales say r19 Shocked
  
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Reply #11 - May 8th, 2019 at 9:50pm
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This is a bit smaller, I would say that this is a very nice Model 49!
  
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Reply #12 - May 9th, 2019 at 12:20am
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Though it looks in his pic as if the face of the action says 52 in the lower left corner.
  
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Reply #13 - May 9th, 2019 at 8:54am
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The face of the action is stamped with 52

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Re: Stevens 44 1/2
Reply #14 - May 9th, 2019 at 10:43am
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The number may refer to Ross. Ross was a company shooter for Stevens and took over the custom barreling. For a period Stevens continued to produce Pope type rifling. After that Ross rifling was used It had a Pope style shape but was constant not gain twist. The R8 maybe Rosses 8th barrel the R15 his 15th barrel.
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Reply #15 - May 9th, 2019 at 4:40pm
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Stevens Ideal, I believe that the Pope Model had a full octagon barrel;
  
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Reply #16 - May 9th, 2019 at 6:03pm
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Despite the slightly fancier forearm checkering than seen in the catalog cut, and the "52" stamped on the action, if the buttplate is a No. 3 rather than a No. 4, the rifle seems much more likely to be a No. 49.

Also, from the extra screw in the action's face, I assume the rifle has an automatic ejector.

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Reply #17 - May 9th, 2019 at 11:06pm
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Bill Lawrence wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 6:03pm:
Despite the slightly fancier forearm checkering than seen in the catalog cut, and the "52" stamped on the action, if the buttplate is a No. 3 rather than a No. 4, the rifle seems much more likely to be a No. 49.

Also, from the extra screw in the action's face, I assume the rifle has an automatic ejector.

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The screw shown in the face of the action threads in the hole that holds the shank of the breech block plunger, and the breech block plunger spring, used to rock the top of the breech block rearward as the action opens.
The screw that the plunger in the ejector works against will come in from the side of the action if so equipped... if the action was a standard extractor model, it wouldn't have the extra screw in the side of the action.
  

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Re: Stevens 44 1/2
Reply #18 - May 10th, 2019 at 11:41am
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Early 52 had the 4 finger loop lever. then the Pope style lever added later.
Pope would make his barrels in any configuration that you would order round, part octagon, or full octagon.

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Reply #19 - May 10th, 2019 at 1:03pm
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The barrel on the 52 pictured is a full octagon 30" long
  
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