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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1133 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Let the learning begin May 11^th, 2019 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	Just paid for a big brother to my little 7x14 Grizzly lathe. Ron Heilman (sight maker extraordinaire) had this South Band Heavy 10 with 4.5' bed and hardened ways. It came with some great tooling as shown. Adjustable 6", 6 jaw scroll chuck, 6" 4 jaw chuck, steady rest, follower rest, micrometer carriage stop, 5 C collet closer, collet tray, QC tool post and other goodies. Won't be picking the lathe up until later next week. Gives me time to rearrange my shop. This is the last big toy on my pre-retirement bucket list Going to have to fine a hole in the back yard to bury all the barrels I mess up

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Zack T Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 253 Joined: Apr 9^th, 2010	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #1 - May 11^th, 2019 at 9:15pm	Print Post
	Congrats ! Great machine and the tooling to get you going ! I have been running a 13" sb as a rank beginner and love it. Found the old southbend "how to run a lathe" book very helpful. I think John Hinnants book "the complete illustrated guide to precision rifle barrel fitting" is good. He talks about working between centers and through the headstock. Touches on the "gordy gritters" aka grizzly rod method too though there are a couple better resources for that method. Im sure the more experienced guys can chime in. I found an old southbend machine shop projects book with lots of increasingly difficult shop projects a great way to start making chips. Congrats again you will love that machine. Zack


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LRF Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 421 Location: MN Joined: May 8^th, 2010	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #2 - May 11^th, 2019 at 9:24pm	Print Post
	Congrats, you will love it, great machine. I have one just like it that I have owned now for probably 10 years. Mine came with much much tooling. Have fun


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1133 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #3 - May 11^th, 2019 at 9:30pm	Print Post
	Zack, I have both those books. Now I have to start studying them more. I also have a two volume machine shop training course and Machine Shop Trade Secrets by Harvey. Tubal Cain on You tube is a great resource as well. Jack

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Zack T Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 253 Joined: Apr 9^th, 2010	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #4 - May 11^th, 2019 at 9:35pm	Print Post
	Haha I love tubalcain. There are a ton of great youtube guys out there if you are so inclined. I like this old tony too. Not a gunsmithing channel but lots of good shop stuff and he is a closeted airgun guy. Glad you got a collet closer with it. I use my collets a ton. Probably more than my chucks for small gun part stuff. I have been liking using collet blocks on the mill too. Surprising how many little bits can have features cut on the lathe in collets then transferred to the mill in collet blocks to have other features cut. Im in the very green stage so always learning. Best- zack


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n.r.davis Full Member Offline Posts: 210 Joined: Dec 3^rd, 2015	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #5 - May 12^th, 2019 at 7:36am	Print Post
	If your falling asleep your taking too light of a cut. If the Machine is jumping around your taking too heavy of a cut. If the parts won't go together you need to take more off. If they fall apart on assembly you took off too much. Simple, Yup! A challenge, Yup! Enjoy! David


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 11502 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #6 - May 12^th, 2019 at 8:46am	Print Post
	If Ron had it, it has to be a good machine! Good see that picture with Ron standing there. He looks like he's still doing great! Tell Ron I said hello when you pick up the lathe!

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6556 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #7 - May 12^th, 2019 at 10:19am	Print Post
	Congratulations Jack !


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1133 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #8 - May 12^th, 2019 at 10:52am	Print Post
	Vall, Ron seems to be doing fine. He said the demand for his soule sight has dropped off with the cheaper alternatives on the market but the German sights are still selling. He has a table at Puyallup still and has been shooting military CBA. I think he said he won the match at Paul Bunyan yesterday morning. I look forward to making chips on that lathe. Jack

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6886 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #9 - May 12^th, 2019 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	Jack, Thank you for the Email. That's a really nice looking lathe, with all the tooling you should need (for now ). I'm sure your wife will know where to find you for at least the next year Frank

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 11502 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #10 - May 12^th, 2019 at 3:06pm	Print Post
	bpjack wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:52am: Vall, Ron seems to be doing fine. He said the demand for his soule sight has dropped off with the cheaper alternatives on the market but the German sights are still selling. He has a table at Puyallup still and has been shooting military CBA. I think he said he won the match at Paul Bunyan yesterday morning. I look forward to making chips on that lathe. Jack Looks like he's got a new seller in his thimbles for the Pacific Ballard barrels! He's been doing good with those sales recently.

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KFW Full Member Offline Posts: 168 Location: Musselshell Mt. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #11 - May 13^th, 2019 at 8:29am	Print Post
	nice lathe, you may know this or not....set up the lathe using a precision machinists level. check end to end so there is not a twist to the bed. the old SB will love you for that. this will get you the inherent accuracy it was made with.


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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Tune Your Rifle: Make Her Sing Posts: 3483 Location: St. Albert Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #12 - May 13^th, 2019 at 9:08am	Print Post
	Jack: Let me know when you are taking orders. Dave


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6556 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #13 - May 13^th, 2019 at 1:08pm	Print Post
	My Lathe is directly mounted onto a very solid piece of angle iron, the intent to keep the bed from twisting and it being level to the base itself. In others words when using a machinist level all though the base is not perfectly level the reading on the machinist level reads the same across the ways for their entire length. I also cannot detect any twisting in the base while prying up on one corner trying to purposely induce a different reading on the machinist level across the ways. In other words I believe it to be a better mounting system compared to a typical and separate from lathe base and I hope that makes some sense.


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Zack T Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 253 Joined: Apr 9^th, 2010	Re: Let the learning begin Reply #14 - May 13^th, 2019 at 2:05pm	Print Post
	Terms of parallel, twisted and flat actually get pretty muddy when talking about lathes and Im not quakified to give a treatise. Precision work can be turned out on a lathe mounted to the floor of a ships machine shop because the bed ways and floor are parallel. The concrete floor in my shop changes enough with temperature that my lathe level pics up a few thou of difference


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