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What brand of blackpowder are you shooting?
Jun 30th, 2019 at 11:54pm
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Now that I have jumped back into shooting my 40/65 with blackpowder I am about to exhaust the supply I have on hand for my 12 ga muzzleloader.  I am not sure if I can find any powder locally so will probably either have the dealer order some or get some from BACO.  Looking to shoot bullets from 300 to 400 grains fixed loading for hunting but might try breech seating as well in the off season.  Since I won't be shooting large volumes of powder over the course of a year there is not much difference in price between the cheapest and the most expensive.  Since I will be hunting it would be a slight advantage if
the powder allowed for some compression without loosing accuracy.  So which powder, which granulation would you recommend and why?  Tom
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Re: What brand of blacklisted are you shooting?
Reply #1 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:46am
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You will never go wrong with Goex 2F. It is a versatile powder, good in small cartridges up to 12 ga shotgun loads. It is good in muzzle loaders as well as cartridges. It is compressible, generally is easy to find a good load for and almost always available.
With that said I shoot Swiss 1 1/2 mainly because it shoots so clean. Most of my shooting is with black powder cartridges but lately I've been using the Swiss 1 1/2 in my Civil War 58 caliber muskets and my 50 caliber Maynard.
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 1:13pm
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I shoot Swiss and  Old Ensford, 1.5 in my BPCRS,and Goex 2f in my muzzleloaders.
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 1:22pm
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My 40-65 Browning BPCR 53 grains Goex 3F and Lyman 400 gr Snover Bullet
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 2:43pm
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Swiss and old ensford both in 1.5 for 40-65 to 45-90.
Didn't care much for goex in cartridge rifles.
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 6:05pm
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Swiss 1.5 across the board for 40-65, 40-72.
But "using up" my no longer available KIK 2F which works "second best"vs the Swiss 1.5 in my 40-65.
Looking at Swiss 3f on hand for my 30 USA and 32-40 RH
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Reply #6 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 6:07pm
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OH, Doug, your Old E is made by Goex….
but I know what you mean re. the old "regular" Goex.

  
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Reply #7 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:29pm
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I use 52.7 grains of Swiss FFFg to obtain 1,250 fps with a 410 grain Money bullet in my .40-65 and a 427 grain Creedmore in my .40-60 Maynard.
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Reply #8 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:28pm
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looking at BACO site I see Swiss Caviar and Swiss regular.  I assume the regular is the powder we are talking about?  I need to order tomorrow as the dealer here told me his license doesn't allow blackpowder sales
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Reply #9 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 10:31pm
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Swiss 1 1/2.  Powder is one of the least cost items in this sport, might as well shoot the best.
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 10:41pm
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Couple other places to order from, in case of .........

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Another favorite to get powder from is Bear River Powder in Evanston, Wy. He brings what I order to the Quigley match.


Forgot to add I'm using O.E. 1 1/2 in my 45-90 and 40-65.
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Reply #11 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:51am
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Pretty much use Swiss 1-1/2 F in my 50's and 2 F the 40's. Tried the Swiss Caviar and found it to be very consistent but not enough so to offset the added cost. ratseye
  
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Re: What brand of blackpowder are you shooting?
Reply #12 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 9:21am
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The picture BACO has for the Caviar powder is the same label for the Swiss we have been buying for many years.

The Swiss regular is the new powder canister I have not seen before.

We do need some explanation as to what Swiss has introduced - have they also switched the labelling as well as introduced a new powder?
  
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Reply #13 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 7:51pm
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I would very much like to know how the manufacturers of the Swiss powder have managed to get the extra energy out of their gunpowder when the formula for gunpowder has been well known for 500 years and there is only supposed to be three ingredients in it. Many years ago I considered having a sample tested to see what might have been added but I was advised  that the charge for the service would be A$1,500, so I gave up on that idea.
Even if it was shown that the extra performance was obtained by the addition of some form of smokeless I guess everybody would still keep using it and just kid themselves that they were shooting real black powder, same as using duplex loads I suppose.
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PS  It's not about being traditional, it's all about winning right ?.
  
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Re: What brand of blackpowder are you shooting?
Reply #14 - Jul 3rd, 2019 at 12:42am
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Mike, saying the formula for gunpowder is known is like saying the formula for Coca-Cola is water, caramel, sugar and some spices. Gunpowder is just a mixture of, what, 2 chemicals and some charcoal. The exact percentages can vary slightly, the purity of the chemicals can vary, the kind of wood the charcoal was made from and the remaining moisture can vary, the fineness of the ingredients, the thoroughness of the mixing, and the method and carefulness of the crushing are all contributing factors to what happens when it burns. Some would say that in spite of everything modern being thrown at it that it still has not equaled the quality of Curtis and Harvey #6 from pre 1900.
  
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