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Jul 7th, 2019 at 12:49am
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surfing the net for single  shot stuff and ran across this Pump action martini- Combain rifle I think it would make a fine small game rifle.
  
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Reply #1 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 10:29am
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That's crazy looking! But in a neat way! Never seen one, or ever knew they existed?
  

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Reply #2 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 11:03am
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If the "pump" works the block (and the extractor?), does the the trigger guard/under lever just cock the action?  Any idea who made this Rube Goldberg?

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Reply #3 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 12:54pm
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I would guess it was made by Nagant. also guess that it cocks and ejects the shell as you pump the forearm back then drop a cartridge in and pump the forearm foreward and you are ready to fire. my 2 cents
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 1:07pm
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Just when you think you've seen everything ...

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Reply #5 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 1:34pm
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That is just plain cool. By the looks of it, it must have worked pretty well or it wouldn't have lasted long enough to look to be in that condition. Or, possibly functioned as a single shot after all else failed. I would love to see the internals. Perhaps a patent search? For Comblain repeater?
  

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Reply #6 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 3:07pm
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Wild and crazy! What gauge is it?
  

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Reply #7 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 3:35pm
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The trigger guard doesn't look anything like a normal Comblain, and not enough clearance for it to be moved like a normal Comblain action is to operate it.
I think this isn't something "built up", but something manufactured new this way. The question now is how many were built?
  

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Reply #8 - Jul 9th, 2019 at 2:51pm
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It is the third one that I have seen---all in fairly battered condition. The trigger guard does not move.
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Reply #9 - Jul 9th, 2019 at 8:39pm
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The trigger guard does not move.


Then why not a conventional trigger? (I'm missing something here, aren't I?)

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Reply #10 - Jul 9th, 2019 at 8:49pm
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If it is like a Comblain the main v spring is enclosed in the trigger housing. IDK just guessing.Fred, the picture that I posted had a reference to rook rifle, which might explain the condition. I have found the patent list of Emil Nagant and there is a reference to a quick loading rifle and improvements to it, maybe? They are Belgian patents, so will have to keep digging.
  
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Reply #11 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 11:13am
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Bill Lawrence wrote on Jul 9th, 2019 at 8:39pm:
The trigger guard does not move.


Then why not a conventional trigger? (I'm missing something here, aren't I?)

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Most likely because that would be a complete design change to change the trigger/spring design. Simply adding a pump operating rod and forearm under the barrel to do what the trigger guard used to do is a simple change to improve the Comblain's cocking mechanism. It doesn't require much of a design change to accomplish this change.
  

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Reply #12 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 2:01pm
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have a look at Micksguns.com.
I haven't checked, but Mick Shepherd had one in .380 long listed a few months ago.
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Reply #13 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 7:43pm
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Yes Fred, it is still there. 750 pounds.

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Reply #14 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:52pm
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That is the one that I posted pictures of. Hmm
  
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