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Mar 26th, 2020 at 9:18am
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I bought a Pope-barreled Stevens rifle and tools from a friend approx. 3 yrs ago. He  had it at least since 2004 and maybe a few years earlier. The various numbers of my rifle are:
  Action Serial Number: 9503
  Stevens Barrel Number: 6680
  Pope Barrel Number: 269

He recently found and sent me a copy of an envelope (maybe card) return-addressed to Robt. L. Dubbs with the typewritten message:

  Two targets made with the Pope 32-40-33
  ten shots on each target 2 1/4 inch circles
  machine rest.

... and copies of two targets with "Barrel # 6680" written in the outer ring on both.

Did any of you own this rifle or know who may have? I am looking for the original card and targets.

R.L. Dubbs was a shooter with the Philadelphia Rifle Club listed in Forest & Stream and The American Rifleman articles dating back to 1909-1916.

Any help is appreciated ...
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Reply #1 - Mar 26th, 2020 at 10:37am
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Wow!!  What a set!  I wonder what happened to the original barrel.  And where have I seen that re- and decapper before?

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Reply #2 - Mar 26th, 2020 at 10:43am
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the Re7De Is a Farrow style I think it is a repro there were castings around a few years ago. I think the farrows were nickle plated.

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Reply #3 - Mar 26th, 2020 at 11:17am
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Joe, could you clarify something for me? Does the gun have both barrel numbers on it, "6680" and "269"? So I'm guessing Pope rebored, and rifled the original Stevens barrel to the new caliber?
Any other Pope markings for twist rate, etc. under the forearm?
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That's right Vall ... the original Stevens barrel is stamped .32-40 caliber ... but it is now .33-47 caliber. Pope must have rebored it.

The bottom flat is marked:  21 | 141  269 .
  
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So, again to clarify, is it most likely that Stevens barrel 6680 had already been fitted to Stevens action 9503 before Pope rebored it?  Or did Pope often make use of a used barrel, likely left over from a previous project, perhaps to cut a client's costs at least somewhat?

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Reply #6 - Mar 26th, 2020 at 12:38pm
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My guess is that Pope often made use of a used barrel -or- Stevens barrel no. 6680 got separated from the rest of the rifle and was attached to this action and buttstock in its history.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 26th, 2020 at 12:48pm
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Seems that opening it up to .33 caliber would not be a rebore, as I don't think a rebore would remove the old Stevens rifling? Likely Pope opened up the existing rifling to .33 caliber?
Joe, do you have the 2 volume Hartford Pope books? I see your gun listed there on page 250 of Vol. 2 with a little more info.
  

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Yes, I have the Hartford Pope set but haven't looked at the entry ... ha.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 30th, 2020 at 2:22pm
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The face of the receiver is blank, no stamps or numbers whatsoever. Is it possible that the the gunmaker, Pope or otherwise, squared the face of the receiver to the barrel threads?
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 30th, 2020 at 2:24pm
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I can see a faint "O" on the front of the receiver, which is pretty common marking on a Stevens 44.
  

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