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Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:34am
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I’d like to convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr. Can the barrel be lined or are replacement barrels available?
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Re: Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Reply #1 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:51am
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Both.
Lining to 22LR would likely cost about 50-75% of a good new barrel, installed. You can probably find a cheapy new barrel for less, but the 'known-good' barrels generally run about that percentage of having a liner put in an original barrel.
Talk to John Taylor. He did a nice job on a centerfire Winoku for me.
You "might" be able to purchase a new factory barrel. However, last I looked Winchester would not sell finished barrels to the public and you would have to pay them to install same. That may have changed, but the barrel will likely be expensive and regardless, it will still need to be fitted to the action by a gunsmith.
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Re: Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Reply #2 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 10:14am
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If you can find a takeoff .22 barrel it will save you a lot of money. Lining, or a new barrel will both be more money. Lining is more than a new barrel, but a new barrel needs to be finished externally and then blued too. Ends up the same price pretty much in the end.
I'd check Numrich and see if they have any takeoff barrels in .22 for your Moroku.
  

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Reply #3 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 10:15am
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Perhaps it is better/cheaper? to simply sell the 17 and buy a 22.  That is unless this rifle has some sentimental value.

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Reply #4 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 10:42am
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Doesn't matter much as to cost whether you reline that or have it rebarreled, you'll be staring at 700$ pretty easily.
In the end you may be better off just getting another rifle in 22.
  
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Re: Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Reply #5 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 9:08am
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Well you guys are probably right, it wouldn't be worth the money. I like to shoot in my back yard and I use Aguila Super Colibri 22lr ammo. I don't think anyone makes subsonic 17 ammo.
  
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Re: Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Reply #6 - Apr 11th, 2020 at 11:30am
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Another idea...Aguila 60 gr  sub sonic  with a 9 twist Lilja barrel. Now you have something to kick A little butt . Have a friend that packs A 22 pistol concealed  with these loads. At close range could put a hurt on someone. But it needs a 9 twist barrel( or liner) in rifle to get the full accurate benefit. Do some research if you have the time. .....
Supposedly there are 10/22 barrels available ready to go.....
  

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Re: Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Reply #7 - Apr 11th, 2020 at 12:07pm
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Good point Mr. Skalkaho. I have the 60 grain Aguila and it didn't shoot well in my CZ455. The CZ has a 1-16 twist for 22lr. The CZ shoots the 20 grain Aguila pretty accurately over a short distance. About 25 yards. Although I once took a squirrel at 50 yards with the Aquila 20 grain..
  
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Re: Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Reply #8 - Apr 12th, 2020 at 1:43am
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Ranch13 wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 10:42am:
Doesn't matter much as to cost whether you reline that or have it rebarreled, you'll be staring at 700$ pretty easily.
In the end you may be better off just getting another rifle in 22.


$700 seems awful high.  I had a Springfield Trapdoor relined a few years ago & I paid $225 including shipping.  No doubt prices have increased since the but $700, really?

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Re: Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Reply #9 - Apr 12th, 2020 at 9:25am
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Yeh really, go check the price for a good liner, then ask a gunsmith what he'll charge to do that. Was looking into a similar project and comparing the costs no so very long ago.. Liners cost around 7$ an inch..
New barrel would be a better option, and at a a little higher cost. At least with a 22 barrel, and keep the take off 17 barrel, the option is there to go back..


  
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Re: Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Reply #10 - Apr 12th, 2020 at 11:45am
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SOOOO after posting about the 9 twist Lilja for 60 gr Aguila. seems a 12 twist is the magic number. Will shoot 40 grainers AND shoot the 60 gr Aguila. Only hang up , no one makes a 12 twist....except maybe RKS ? A custom gain twist !  I have enough 22's and my Lowall Helm with Rons barrel shoots lights out. But had to pass this on for those that may do it and report on it!!!
  

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Reply #11 - Apr 12th, 2020 at 12:28pm
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McGowen will build you one with a 12 twist. I had them build one with a 14 twist, and it shoots the heavy Aquila very well at 25 yards. Wanting to stretch it to 200 and see how it goes.
  
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Re: Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Reply #12 - Apr 12th, 2020 at 10:36pm
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Shilen Rifles does a 10 twist for a 22lr 60 grain bullet. BTW I have a Shilen ratchet barrel on my CPA and it is super.
  
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Re: Convert a Miroku Winchester 17HM2 to 22lr?
Reply #13 - May 1st, 2020 at 1:11pm
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texasmac wrote on Apr 12th, 2020 at 1:43am:
Ranch13 wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 10:42am:
Doesn't matter much as to cost whether you reline that or have it rebarreled, you'll be staring at 700$ pretty easily.
In the end you may be better off just getting another rifle in 22.


$700 seems awful high.  I had a Springfield Trapdoor relined a few years ago & I paid $225 including shipping.  No doubt prices have increased since the but $700, really?
Wayne


Ranch13 wrote on Apr 12th, 2020 at 9:25am:
Yeh really, go check the price for a good liner, then ask a gunsmith what he'll charge to do that. Was looking into a similar project and comparing the costs no so very long ago.. Liners cost around 7$ an inch..
New barrel would be a better option, and at a a little higher cost. At least with a 22 barrel, and keep the take off 17 barrel, the option is there to go back..


I just received an estimate from Lee Shaver.  His price to install a Redman .22 liner in a Win. .17 cal. low wall is $200 to $250 + shipping, which is his standard pricing.  Therefore, even with shipping, the total will be $300 max.

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